On Thu, 4 Feb 2010 13:50:55 -0500, Gord Tomlin
<gt.ibm.li...@actionsoftware.com> wrote:

>Uhh, "the same engines...at different price points" -- sure sounds like
>marketing to me!
>




On Thu, 4 Feb 2010 12:50:02 -0600, Tom Marchant <m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>
>We can disagree about this.  The kneecapped engines are _exactly_ the same
>as the full speed ones.  It isn't like they are selecting parts that won't
>perform at full spec or something.
>
>Said another way, if they are able to make money selling the systems with
>kneecapped engines, it is a marketing gimmick to sell the exact same
>hardware that is allowed to run full speed.
>

I see what you are both saying.  I guess it's the "gimmick" part I don't 
really agree with.  Finding ways to manufacture something cheaper but
still giving the consumer a product for the same price that does the same
thing or better (if you consider the technology dividend in the specific
case of system z) doesn't seem like a gimmick.  It's smart business. 
In other words, to the end user, what's the difference in the inside parts
changed and I am still getting a good deal.   Would you feel better if
IBM manufactured **130 different engine types for the z10 and you got
the one rated at the MSU level you get today?

** the z10 BC has 130 different capacity settings alone, but that includes
a combination of knee-capping and number of engines

>
>If Ferrari sold cars for less money with governors that kept them from going
>over 80 MPH it would be the same thing.
>

If I could get a Ferrari for the same price as my Mustang, guess what... I would
probably do it.  Even if it could only go 80 MPH (which more than meets
my requirements and is still well above the legal speed limit).  It could be
a win-win for the manufacturer and myself. 

Mark
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