I used SAIL (and some other language, don't remember which now) on the LOTS machine mentioned in the DEC-10 messages below. I really liked TOPS-20. Then I really liked VM/CMS and XEDIT. And I liked WYLBUR. I guess it's my fate to like doomed operating systems and editors.
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Anne & Lynn Wheeler <[email protected]> Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> 02/23/2010 07:10 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> To [email protected] cc Subject Re: [IBM-MAIN] Adventure - Or Colossal Cave Adventure The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [email protected] (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) writes: > I suspect that what Tymshare had was a PDP-10, or maybe the older PDP-6, > which was basically an older version of the same machine. recent reference to mip envy http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#80 Senior Java Developer vs. MVS Systems Programmer which mentions survey/visits to other institution ... with snippets of those visits ... including stanford CS dept. the longer thread in a.f.c. (x-posted to alt.sys.pdp10) including some of the people from stanford CS dept ... and some discussion of stanford sail machine http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#51 Happy DEC-10 Day http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#52 Happy DEC-10 Day Adventure wiki pages http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adventure_game http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adventure_Game http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossal_Cave_Adventure from above, URL for "Crowther's original source code for Adventure (as recovered from Don Woods's student account at Stanford)" (mar1977): http://jerz.setonhill.edu/if/crowther/ Tymshare wasn't far away ... and (also) had PDP-10. As previously mentioned Tymshare offerred vm370-based commercial online interactive timesharing (available via tymnet). They had also developed CMS-based computer conferencing and in Aug76 ... provided it free to SHARE as VMSHARE ... VMSHARE archive: http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare/ and some old email mentioning vmshare (frequently mentioning getting monthly snapshots of all the vmshare files and making them available within the corporation): http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#vmshare wiki page mentioning (tymshare's) tymnet http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tymnet Above mentions Tymnet starting to port to Interdata 7/32 in 1972 and then started development of Tymnet on PDP-10. Aside, as undergraduate in the 60s, I had been part of univ. project that used Interdata/3 for 2702 clone ... four of us gotten written up responsible for clone business some past posts http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#360pcm In 1984, M/D bought Tymshare. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tymshare Somewhat as part of that I setup interviews for Engelbert (he had augment running on tymshare pdp), trying to interest him in joining IBM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NLS_%28computer_system%29 M/D also brought me in to do audit of Tymshare's GNOSIS as part of its spin-off as KEYKOS (I still have gnosis document somewhere in boxes) ... a little gnosis/keykos history here: http://www.coyotos.org/history/index.html past posts in thread http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#57 Adventure - Or Colossal Cave Adventure http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#64 Adventure - Or Colossal Cave Adventure http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#65 Adventure - Or Colossal Cave Adventure http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#67 Adventure - Or Colossal Cave Adventure http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#68 Adventure - Or Colossal Cave Adventure http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#74 Adventure - Or Colossal Cave Adventure http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#75 Adventure - Or Colossal Cave Adventure http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#77 Adventure - Or Colossal Cave Adventure http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#82 Adventure - Or Colossal Cave Adventure -- 42yrs virtualization experience (since Jan68), online at home since Mar1970 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
