Re: VSE sunset there was also the near-heroic efforts to save VSE by Pete
Clark, Bennie Pugh, and Charles Rice. I don't think IBM "found out" the
extent of VSE usage in China; I think they always knew.

> OS was being developed by an outside source

Really?

It also might be mentioned that there was an incentive to develop a
quick-and-dirty DOS/360 that came from the shortage of machine time on the
7094 simulators (being used to develop OS/360) versus the amount of 360
hardware that was coming out of the factory but unusable due to the lack of
an operating system.

Charles

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IBM was about to sunset VSE a few years ago until it found out that in
mainland China, VSE was the operating system of choice.

Given their population, I don't think it will be disappearing anytime soon.

And to think it all was just a mistake from the beginning.

Back in the days when 3rd generation was "about to walk upon the scene" and
OS was being developed by an outside source, IBM was concerned it was too
big an undertaking and I might never even come into existence.

So that they would not lose the chance to steal the market from UNIVAC which
was the vendor of choice in those days and the favorite to win the 3rd
generation race to the marketplace, they hastily developed DOS internally
just in case and brought it out first.

Unfortunately, it has always lacked at least one major control block, the
DEB and so tech support has always been shackled with the burden of manually
keeping track of every cylinder and track.

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