"R.S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM wrote:
> 
> > "R.S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > 
> >>You can use GRS across monoplexes.
> >>It does't require Parallel Sysplex.
> >>Base Sysplex is recommended, but also not required.
> >>For non-sysplex GRS, you native GRS CTC communication: BCTC devices.
> >>Usually GRS uses XCF communication - that means Base Sysplex.
> >>
> >>BTW: I don't know what Shane mean, but it is feasible to share data 
> >>without GRS and without integrity exposures.
> >>
> >>-- 
> > 
> > 
> > I know what Shane means, you can share data without GRS if you know the 
> > integrity exposures. A lot is protected via Reserver/Release hardware 
> > reserves, but simple dataset protection works only with SYSDSN ENQs within 
> > each system and there is nothing to prevent simultaneous updates on two 
> > systems.  GRSs (and MIM) function is to propagate these ENQs to the other 
> > system(s). However, you can workout a configuration where each system has 
> > its own Dasd such that exposures are minimized.
> 
> You mean an application which issues ENQ,SCOPE=SYSTEM, but not RESERVE ?
> 
> IMHO bad design, it should be
> RESERVE and ENQ.
> 
> ..but it is still circumvention to use ...GRS <g>
> Just change place the resource on INCLUDE list, to convert SCOPE=SYSTEM > to 
> SCOPE=SYSTEMS.
> You can do it on every monoplex, without connecting GRSes.
> 
> -- 

No!
Some basisc:
ENQs and RESERVEs are two different beasts. ENQs serialize a resource within a 
system, RESERVEs cause the hardware to reserve the volume together with an ENQ 
in the local system (in fact a RESERVE macro is an ENQ macro with a UCB 
parameter).

SYSDSN is an ENQ without a RESERVE, it is designed as such, you can like it or 
not.

ENQs come in the flavours SYSTEM and SYSTEMS. The first is intended to stay 
within the system, the second is intended to be propagated to the other 
systems. But still, this ENQ propagation and has nothing to do with RESERVEs. 
If you think putting a resource in the INCLUDE list will transfer it to a 
RESERVE, you are wrong! Putting a RESERVE in the CONVERSION list, will transfer 
it into a normal ENQ over all systems.

Kees.


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