>
> Hi chris,

Thank you for helping me (as you did in the past)


>
> I am no longer - for decades now - a CICS specialist but I have seen in a
> recent thread in this list I think which allows CICS to pass print data to
> JES2
> from where there is a product which uses IP-based protocols to an IP native
> -
> as it were - printer. You may like to research this possibility.
>
We are need to perform this without purchasing any product.

>
> On the other hand, you can still treat your printer as an SNA device but
> have
> the Communications Server (CS) IP component TN3270E server concatenate
> the SNA session with a TN3270E connection to a TN3270E client 3270
> emulator which can drive a printer attached to the workstation.
>
base on this IBM answer :
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21380385 , I perform the
following:
I tried to define a terminal(printer) in CICS and then using the TN3270
define an LU with LUMAP to my network printer IP.
 When sending a print to this terminal in the CICS. we got the following
messages in the CICS (although the LU was CONCT):
DFHZC2405 E TVABSAD3 PR01 CSNE Node FTCP0200 not activated. VTAM RETURN
 CODE 1000 ((6) Module name: DFHZSYX)

DFHZC3437  TVABSAD3 PR01 CSNE Node FTCP0200 action taken: NOCREATE CLS  DST
ABTASK ABSEND ABRECV ((1) Module name: DFHZNAC)

DFHZC3462  TVABSAD3 PR01 CSNE Node FTCP0200 session terminated.
((2) Module name: DFHZCLS)
sFHAC2236  TVABSAD3 Transaction PC02 abend PC3D in program IXOPC0 3D  term
????. Updates to local recoverable resources will be backed out.
and this message on SYSLOG:
IST663I INIT OTHER REQUEST FAILED, SENSE=08570003 212
IST664I REAL  OLU=ADCD.TVABSAD3       REAL  DLU=ADCD.FTCP0200
IST889I SID = D2DF5F7A1B250B38
IST264I REQUIRED RESOURCE FTCP0200 NOT ACTIVE

It seems we must have the LU in activate mode,it means we must perform a
sort of connection to this LU before CICS can send any
print to it. so we decided on using HIS (it is already include in our
enterprise licence).



>
> >  Is there no way to perform a pure IP connectivity to my LPAR?[1]
>
> Note that, if the TN3270E server and CICS are running on the same LPAR.
> yes,they are.

, it
> can be said that you have an IP connection from your workstation supporting
> the printer function and the LPAR where the print data is created.
>
I did'nt completly understood you perhaps i wasn't clear , my question here
was : if i can using emulation to connect directly to tn3270,  why in the
HIS server i cant connect to the mainframe in port 23 and get a default LU.
i now i simplisign it more then it is.

>
>
>
>  Does it require ENTERPRISE EXTENDER?
>
> If you need SNA connectivity - in the shape of actual SNA sessions -
> between
> VTAM and HIS, you should plan to use EE since I have seen recently on the
> Microsoft HIS list/group that the only so-called DLC service that Microsoft
> will
> support in the future is their so-called IP-DLC. That means the DLC which
> supports LAN protocols such as Ethernet is going to be dropped:
>
> https://connect.microsoft.com/site66/content/content.aspx?ContentID=10997
>
> I assume you have worked out that, if you run an SNA session from CICS via
> VTAM to HIS - using an EE logical link, you know how your printing task
> will
> work in that environment. In other words there's some point in my helping
> you
> set up EE.
>
> On the other hand, if this configuration is only to be used for a limited
> time,
> you will always just be using HIS 2006 and it is an option simply to
> connect
> VTAM to HIS over Ethernet with an 802.2 logical link, I believe it may be
> easiest to support your SNA session this way. I believe I have seen some
> samples of a HIS 802.2 connection when I was researching all the problems
> with the Microsoft EE "White Paper". I'll see if I can find it again. It is
> very
> simple on the VTAM side and should be very simple on the HIS side -
> certainly
> compared to EE definitions in both cases.
>
Even if I will use 802.2 It means i need to define a working EE? as you
explained it to me I think I will chose IP-DLC because i need
to implement this for an unlimited time.

>
> The VTAM and HIS definitions are simple but there may be a complication in
> configuring your OSA, assuming you will be using an OSA.
>
Why should i define the OSA ? is the current definition are not enough?

>
> Another point that must never be forgotten if you plan to use EE is to
> ensure
> that your VTAM is enabled for APPN. This is not necessarily a trivial task
> and
> could have repercussions for your existing VTAM production environment.
> Adding an 802.2 logical link is almost certainly going to have no
> repercussions.
>
Already my VTAM is with APPN=YES.

>
> > ... accordingly to the document and member we used in the past for SNA
> server: ...
>
> How did you connect to HIS in the past and can you still use that type of
> connection?
>
is was an 802.2 connection to CICS including printer, but it was done on a
different machine (HIS server and the Z/os was on an old machine)

>
> >  MEDIUM=CSMACD, - If I change it to HPRIP will it work TCP/IP?
>
> Not without massive changes elsewhere.
>
Can you explain me more about the changes I need to make?

>
> >  CPCP=YES I overwrite the CPCP which is now "CPCP=LEASED". Can this
> produce any problems?
>
> Do you have existing SNA sessions between say CICS and HIS?

No .

> Does this
> explain the SSCP-independent LU - which should be defined with a CDRSC
> rather than an LU with LOCADDR=0? - and cannot possibly use an USS table!!!
>
In fact the printer - LOCADDR=2 with DLOGMOD=SCS is assumed to identify an
> SSCP-dependent printer LU - cannot possibly use an USS table either - think
> about it!
>
I'm sorry but as I said I'm lack of knowledge in this area.

>
> The question I ask myself time and again reading this is where is your VTAM
> specialist who should be helping you with this and even perhaps the person
> writing the posts. Such a person would be well aware of my last point!
>
there is'nt any VTAM specialist :( . and this is the first time I'm
configuring VTAM :).

>
>
>
> Please post again with answers to the above. Meantime, since it is clear
> you
> need sensible samples with sensible explanations, I'll get some sample EE
> definitions ready and a few notes on what the HIS definitions in the "White
> Paper" really mean - to be ready sometime tomorrow.
>
thanks*10

>
> Incidentally, as a HIS problem, you should be posting in the HIS list/group
> and/or as an EE problem, you should be posting in the IBMTCP-L list.
>
> Chris Mason
>
> [1] In order to concentrate on the problem posed and not be
> distracted/irritated by the text I am reading, I am obliged to go through
> your
> posts inserting capital letters where they are normally to be found - with
> a
> few other corrections! This explains when I quote you is not precisely what
> you wrote!
> I'm sorry sometimes i don't notice to my writing.



>
> [2] You could set up a CALL=IN PATH statement for security reasons - but
> this is an obscure use of the PATH statement not generally considered all
> that
> useful.
>
I think this wouldn't be necessary

>
>

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