Scary thing is that I was talking up-front costs on the boxes..... -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fletcher, Kevin Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 10:11 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Is mainframe an operating system or database server??
Rex In your SP's defense, maybe they were not aware they were running SMTP and TCPIP, ;-). As far as my comment about price is mini's and servers start out cheaper, but utimately in the end cost more. IBM had a paper out there about this (my mind is fading and I can not remember exactly where), but the number that stuck out was to double the capacity of a MF cost 90% and the cost to double the capacity of server was 125%. I do agree with the mindset comment. I remember some of the powers to be (circa 1998) commented that the MF would be history in 6 months. BTW our servers occupy on 60 foot X 30 foot room and our mainframe about 6 X 6 area. Thanks, Fletch 817-3545 -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex R. Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 9:58 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Is mainframe an operating system or database server?? Unfortunately in our case it is mindset. The word "mainframe" has a negative connotation around here as being big, expensive, and outdated. We have an HP superdome "server" that sits 6 feet tall, 6 feet wide, and 4 feet deep, all external storage and all the other things that make it look like a "mainframe". Our z/OS box is a 7060 - the size of a 2 drawer file cabinet and it cost about 10% of the price of the HP box. Yet the HP box is a "server" and the 7060 is a "mainframe". As far as the "outdated" part of it, we actually had z/OS systems programmers at our parent company tell me a few years ago that the 7060 (or any other z/OS machine) doesn't support e-mail. They wouldn't even believe me when I told them I had been e-mailing security and audit reports from the 7060 for a long time already. So which one is the mainframe and which isn't? Rex -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fletcher, Kevin Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 9:17 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Is mainframe an operating system or database server?? To answer Howards last question, could it be the price? ;-) Thanks, Fletch ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
