> -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL > Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 7:00 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Time change this weekend. > > > >>We have deemed it not worth the > >> trouble to root > >> out and "fix" all the affected code. We just take the outage. > > >Has anybody on the "other" side >tried to use this as an > argument that > >z/OS is so poorly designed that it >cannot stand changing the clock > >without an outage? > ... > > It's not z/OS! MVS has been able to handle it since at least 5.2.2. > > It's the application code, as the above poster stated. > > If you had the same gooberware running under WINTEL, that > didn't log properly, the OS can't help you there, either. > > -teD
Ted, You are using LOGIC. Stop that!<grin> Around here, the mainframe is counted as "down" if there is any perceived outage, regardless of reason. That includes poor application design. Or even if a LAN segment dies due to a switch outage (like the idiot pulled the plug - it's happened!) Oh, this does not apply to the Wintel boxes. They are only counted as "down" if the OS is down (e.g. if MSSQL is down, but the OS is up, then the server is up). Just more POLITICAL stuff. I was just pointing out that POLITICALLY, anti-mainframe zealots could try to say "It doesn't matter why the mainframe is down, it only matters that it is down." And, in the given case, the mainframe is, indeed, down. It doesn't matter why, it just is. Facts are irrelevant. "Perception is reality!" Yes, I'm ranting again. But hopefully for a good cause. To avoid giving "the other side" any ammo. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer UICI Insurance Center Information Technology This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its' content is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this transmission, or taking any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

