I missed both operations and applications programming. I was a field engineer when the division took over responsibility for maintenance of OS/360. They sent a couple hundred of us who scored well on the programmer's aptitude test to Poughkeepsie, where we spent six months learning assembler, JCL, utilities, dump reading, the hardware and software architecture of the 360 and OS/360 (PCP). Afterwards, we were assigned to several different system programming groups in the Poughkeepsie lab for the remainder of our 2 years there.

At the end, we were to return to the field as Program Support Reps (PSRs). Instead, I stayed in Poughkeepsie as an instructor at the Field Engineering education center where I taught OS/360. BDAM and ISAM internals for the next 3 years. I then moved back to the lab just in time to join the MVS design team (1971). There were others I recall who took similar paths from FE to sysprogs, some of whom were also involved in MVS design or development for its first release.

Mike Myers
Mentor Services Corporation

  On 4/12/2010 10:40 AM, Greg Shirey wrote:
An instructor from Verhoef made the observation in a class I attended
that he had never met a mainframe systems programmer  whose first job
was as a systems programmer, and his students invariably would say that
they were invited to become a systems programmer.  So, he always said
"Welcome to the club" when someone in his class would admit that they'd
just begun as a systems programmer.

Greg Shirey
Ben E. Keith Co.

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If you want to consider this a club, then no one admits you.

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