George Henke wrote:
Just read the manual 3 times and do it once. It's a whole lot less
expensive. Especially when IBM makes the manuals all available for free on
the internet.
Yes. The manuals are available for free on the Internet. And
it's great. But reading 3 times does not guarantee you understand,
nor that the manual is clear and accurate and current. Not everyone
"gets it" that way, either. All I'm saying is for some people
learning in an environment where there are structured hands on labs
is the best way to grasp what's going on and get the confidence.
After all what is a consultant anyway. Just someone who has read the manual
because nobody else wants too and more often than not its the client's
manual anyway or through the client's internet.
Well, I'm sure there are some out there like that. But I take
offense at your implication. Many times a consultant is someone
who's walked the path before and learned how to do it right. All
too often it's the managers making the purchase decision who
don't do their homework about the consultant(s) they hire, so
they choose based on price, or on how good a salesperson the
consultant is, instead of on proven skills and value provided.
I have found when teaching 3 - 5 day blockbuster courses on systems,
internals or whatever that there are basically 3 to 5 manuals you have to
know and you have to know them "cold" before you step into a classroom for
that day's lecture.
Sure. No matter what the course you need to know the content. But not
just from book learning, from doing. As you say below.
Great prep for when you actually have to do it in practice.
But practice is what separates the "men from the boys".
Sure. And that's what labs in a hands-on class can give you.
Anybody can talk it, fake it, in the classroom,
No.
First, not anybody can fake it.
Second, many of us actually know what we're doing.
but when it comes time to
bring the system up there is a real "acid test" of what you know or don't
know.
Sure. But how you get to be able do that depends on each
individuals abilities and background. Sometimes training
can help. Sometimes it's worth the money. Sometimes it's
worth the time.
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Steve Comstock
<[email protected]>wrote:
bob molerio wrote:
An FYI:
It seems SUNY Binghamton NY is offering a series of z and Enterprise
courses. I checked and they are offering an Intro to z/VM course, a z/VM
Advanced Topics and Techniques class and an Intro to the HMC course.
The courses are pricey. about $1400/course if you are a NYS resident,
$2200/course if your are an out-of-stater.
Thank you, Bob Molerio
"If you think training is expensive, consider ignorance."
- attributed to various individuals and organizations
Whether those numbers should be considered pricey or not depends
on duration, completeness, and effectiveness. Price is not the
only factor in 'value'.
--
Kind regards,
-Steve Comstock
The Trainer's Friend, Inc.
303-393-8716
http://www.trainersfriend.com
* To get a good Return on your Investment, first make an investment!
+ Training your people is an excellent investment
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