You right, flat head screws have nothing to do with type of driver slot. I
was trying to say that the flat head screws do have good uses. 

Phillips still has some applications were it may be considered a better
choice. For example, when the product designer wants to reduce the chance of
someone over-tightening the screws and damaging the product. However, I like
many consumers curse that choice. I prefer Robertson over all other driver
slot types.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Dave Salt
> Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 11:32 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: C-I-C-S vs KICKS
> 
> > Depending on the need, screws have many head shapes, in addition, to
> the
> > driver slot. If you need a flat surface, then counter sunk holes with
> flat
> > head screws may be the best choice. If you don't need a flat surface,
> then
> > why waste time drilling counter sunk holes.
> 
> This has nothing to do with counter sunk holes. Phillips ('X' head) and
> Robertson (square head) can both be used on the same materials (wood,
> metal, drywall, etc) and can both be countersunk or not depending on
> desire and application. Virtually every size and shape of screw
> imaginable can be made as either a Phillips or a Robertson.
> 
> I've never understood why Phillips screws continue to be manufactured,
> and apparently I'm not alone as I just discovered this Facebook page
> devoted to getting rid of Phillips screws:
> 
> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=59906747988
> 
> Dave Salt
> 
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> 
> 
> > Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:09:46 -0400
> > From: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: C-I-C-S vs KICKS
> > To: [email protected]
> >
> > Depending on the need, screws have many head shapes, in addition, to
> the
> > driver slot. If you need a flat surface, then counter sunk holes with
> flat
> > head screws may be the best choice. If you don't need a flat surface,
> then
> > why waste time drilling counter sunk holes.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]]
> On
> > > Behalf Of Gerhard Postpischil
> > > Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 5:19 PM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: C-I-C-S vs KICKS
> > >
> > > On 7/24/2010 1:17 PM, Dave Salt wrote:
> > > > Flat head screws are garbage, and Phillips ('X' head) screws
> > > > are only a small step up from garbage. If I buy a product
> > > > that comes with flat head or Phillips screws I usually throw
> > > > them away. I was astonished when I learned Phillips screws
> > > > are widely used in America.
> > >
> > > I don't understand that. The Robertson screws shown on Wiki are
> > > all flat head types (e.g., intended for flush mounting in
> > > countersunk holes).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Gerhard Postpischil
> > > Bradford, VT
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