Thanks. BTW, "BQI0538" in the last chunk below is a PTF for MAINVIEW...
Regards, Thomas Berg _________________________________________ Thomas Berg Specialist A M SWEDBANK > -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- > Från: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] För Rob > Scott > Skickat: den 18 augusti 2010 12:24 > Till: [email protected] > Ämne: Re: Reamining non-reusable memory after batchjobs > > Nothing leaps out at me from the eye-catchers. > > "Saveareas in CSA" -- I shudder to think that anyone would do that. > > If nothing looks like it comes from installation exits, then I would > suggest that you list all of the vendors of ISV software that could be in > the "job submission life cycle" and contact them to see if they know of > any orphaned CSA issues. > > Show them the output you have and be prepared to take an in-flight dump to > capture the CSA/ECSA. > > The "AREA" chunks look like they might have interesting stuff at : > > +x'08' Next/Prev? > +x'0C' Length of block (x'590' = 1424) > +x'10' Next/Prev ? > +x'18' ASCB ? > > Plus after that there is job identity stuff and some date/time stamps as > well. > > > Rob Scott > Lead Developer > Rocket Software > 275 Grove Street · Newton, MA 02466-2272 · USA > Tel: +1.617.614.2305 > Email: [email protected] > Web: www.rocketsoftware.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Thomas Berg > Sent: 18 August 2010 10:13 > To: [email protected] > Subject: SV: Reamining non-reusable memory after batchjobs > > Thanks Rob, > > Most of the chunks looks like: > > ASID=028F START=15A11A70 LOCATION=Extended CSA MAP= > Address Offset 0-1-2-3- 4-5-6-7- 8-9-A-B- C-D-E-F- 0---4---8---C-- > - > 15A11A70 +0 C1D9C5C1 40E6E3D9 15A104E0 00000590 ! AREA > WTR.ü.É...° ! > 15A11A80 +10 15A11FA8 00000000 00F3D700 80600000 ! .ü.y.....3P.Ø- > .. ! > 15A11A90 +20 E2F0F0F0 E3C2C5D7 D1D6C2F1 F4F9F2F2 ! > S000TBEPJOB14922 ! > 15A11AA0 +30 00000000 00000000 0110229F 002B665F ! > ...........]..Ã^ ! > 15A11AB0 +40 0110229F 002B6681 0110229F 002B66CB ! > ...]..Ãa...]..Ãô ! > 15A11AC0 +50 F6000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ! > 6............... ! > 15A11AD0 +60 00008000 C5D8D8C8 15A11A80 00000000 ! > ..Ø.EQQH.ü.Ø.... ! > 15A11AE0 +70 00F54000 00200000 C9F4D7D4 D7F2F6F9 ! .5 > .....I4PMP269 ! > 15A11AF0 +80 D1D6C2F0 F9F1F9F1 00000000 00000000 ! > JOB09191........ ! > 15A11B00 +90 0110229F 00162824 0110229F 002B244E ! > ...].......]...+ ! > 15A11B10 +A0 0110229F 002B66D4 00000000 00000000 ! > ...]..ÃM........ ! > <snip> > > Suspecting an INTRDR buffer, could that be so ? (I'm submitting jobs.) > > > One is: > > ASID=028F START=17F87160 LOCATION=Extended CSA MAP= > Address Offset 0-1-2-3- 4-5-6-7- 8-9-A-B- C-D-E-F- 0---4---8---C-- > - > 17F87160 +0 D6C1E2C2 F10001E8 1F670CD0 1F670CD0 ! > OASB1..Y.$.å.$.å ! > 17F87170 +10 02070377 02070377 02070377 00000000 ! > ...Ï...Ï...Ï.... ! > 17F87180 +20 00000000 031CC6CE 00000000 00000000 ! > ......Fó........ ! > 17F87190 +30 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ! > ................ ! > 17F871A0 +40 00000000 00049CDC 00049CDD 17F872B8 ! > ......æ~..æù.8ʽ ! > 17F871B0 +50 00000040 00000001 01FF000C 00000000 ! ... > ............ ! > 17F871C0 +60 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ! > ................ ! > <snip> > > Could this be from a control block (OASB) for unix services ? > > > One is: > > ASID=028F START=00B906E0 LOCATION=CSA MAP= > Address Offset 0-1-2-3- 4-5-6-7- 8-9-A-B- C-D-E-F- 0---4---8---C-- > - > 00B906E0 +0 E2C1E540 F1000538 C2D8C9F0 F5F3F800 ! SAV > 1...BQI0538. ! > 00B906F0 +10 00BB1DA8 00BB60E8 210B90C8 80BA13E0 ! .|.y.|- > Y..°Hج.É ! > 00B90700 +20 210B9150 7F64F878 00000000 57177AB2 ! > ..j&"À8Ì....ï.:¥ ! > 00B90710 +30 00000000 57177C30 00000000 00000000 ! > ....ï.Ö......... ! > 00B90720 +40 814C9C58 00E2C1E5 7FF61784 00B90794 ! > a<æì.SAV"6.d.¾.m ! > 00B90730 +50 80BB1C36 A13A0020 00CAC9A0 007F7FBC ! > Ø|..ü....Iµ.""¯ ! > 00B90740 +60 00000094 26C25CE8 00000030 210B9150 ! > ...m.B*Y......j& ! > 00B90750 +70 210B90C8 007F7FBC 00000020 00BA4040 ! ..°H.""¯.....¬ > ! > 00B90760 +80 00BB60E8 00B906E0 80BB1840 00000000 ! .|-Y.¾.ÉØ|. > .... ! > 00B90770 +90 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ! > ................ ! > 00B90780 +A0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ! > ................ ! > 00B90790 +B0 00000000 00E2C1E5 00B90724 00B90804 ! > .....SAV.¾...¾.. ! > 00B907A0 +C0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ! > ................ ! > 00B907B0 +D0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ! > ................ ! > 00B907C0 +E0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ! > ................ ! > 00B907D0 +F0 00000000 00000000 00000000 C4E7C3D4 ! > ............DXCM ! > 00B907E0 +100 C4E74040 00000000 00000000 00000000 ! DX > ............ ! > 00B907F0 +110 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ! > ................ ! > 00B90800 +120 00000000 00E2C1E5 00B90794 00B90874 ! > .....SAV.¾.m.¾.È ! > 00B90810 +130 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ! > ................ ! > 00B90820 +140 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ! > ................ ! > 00B90830 +150 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ! > ................ ! > 00B90840 +160 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ! > ................ ! > 00B90850 +170 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ! > ................ ! > 00B90860 +180 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ! > ................ ! > 00B90870 +190 00000000 00E2C1E5 00B90804 00B908E4 ! > .....SAV.¾...¾.U ! > 00B90880 +1A0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ! > ................ ! > <snip> > 00B90C00 +520 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ! > ................ ! > 00B90C10 +530 00000000 000A0000 C4E75BC4 C9D94040 ! ........DXÅDIR > ! > 00B90C20 +540 001BC000 03E80000 00000000 C4E7C3D4 ! > ..ä..Y......DXCM ! > 00B90C30 +550 C4E74040 801C1240 03B00000 00000000 ! DX Ø.. > .¢...... ! > 00B90C40 +560 C4E7C1E4 E3E74040 801C05A0 0CA00000 ! DXAUTX > Ø..µ.µ.. ! > 00B90C50 +570 00000000 C4E7C1E4 E3C34040 801BC3E8 ! ....DXAUTC > Ø.CY ! > <snip> > > Some sort of saveareas ? From what ? > > > > Regards, > Thomas Berg > _________________________________________ > Thomas Berg Specialist A M SWEDBANK > > > -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- > > Från: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] För > Rob > > Scott > > Skickat: den 17 augusti 2010 16:25 > > Till: [email protected] > > Ämne: Re: Reamining non-reusable memory after batchjobs > > > > MXI is showing "orphaned" common storage - ie common storage whose owner > > has terminated without correctly releasing it. > > > > This can be grouped into three types : > > > > (a) Intentional - for example some sort of "init" that leaves a control > > block anchor around for later tasks (not so common these days with > > "OWNER=SYSTEM" option on STORAGE OBTAIN). > > (b) Release bypassed completely - maybe bug in code or address space > went > > away "hard" without successful cleanup processing. > > (c) Release performed with incorrect length (leaving fragments around) > > > > I am guessing that you have either case (b) or (c). > > > > Prime candidates in these cases are (in order of likelyhood) : > > > > (1) Installation written exits (RACF,JES,SMF or TSO) > > (2) Some ISV product > > (3) Some IBM product > > > > You need to try and determine the contents of the storage to see if you > > can identify the owner/purpose. > > > > MXI does have a "GQE" command that will show every chunk of common > storage > > and the ownership information - along with a point-and-shoot interface > to > > browse the contents - you can specify "GQE T(C-)" to limit the (rather > > large) display to just orphaned CSA. > > > > Take a look at the chunks and see if the contents or eye-catchers make > > sense. > > > > > > > > Rob Scott > > Lead Developer > > Rocket Software > > 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA > > Tel: +1.617.614.2305 > > Email: [email protected] > > Web: www.rocketsoftware.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On > > Behalf Of Thomas Berg > > Sent: 17 August 2010 16:06 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Reamining non-reusable memory after batchjobs > > > > Hi, > > > > Got a question from a sysprog why there is remaining memory showing > > up in the MXI product from my batchjobs. (Not only from me but as > > I had been busy with submitting jobs I was the most common hit.) > > > > I have two questions: > > > > 1. Why do these remaining (non-reusable) memory blocks appear after > batch > > jobs ? > > > > 2. Is this normal or an error somewhere ? > > > > > > These batch jobs is problem state and most is compiled REXX programs. > > One possible reason could be that I do calls to Changeman, a change > > management > > product that mainly handles application code promotes to test and > > production > > environments. Changeman as such have a couple of STC:s for its work. > > (Is this connected with cross-memory communication ?) > > But some remaining memory blocks was from the beginning of June, more > that > > two months old! And I know that all Changeman STC:s have been restarted > > several > > times since then. > > > > An example from the MXI output (todays result for me as he did an IPL > last > > night): > > > > Jobname JobID Date CSA E-CSA SQA > E- > > SQA > > *TOTAL* 512408 6365616 7688 > > 15552 > > A000XXXR JOB27649 2010/08/17 13.57.13 1336 624 0 > > 0 > > A000XXXT JOB27494 2010/08/17 13.55.01 0 48944 0 > > 0 > > A000XXXP JOB05264 2010/08/17 02.48.26 0 4272 0 > > 0 > > A000XXXP JOB04389 2010/08/17 02.48.21 0 4272 0 > > 0 > > A000XXXP JOB03744 2010/08/17 02.48.05 0 4272 0 > > 0 > > A000XXXP JOB03707 2010/08/17 02.48.03 0 4272 0 > > 0 > > A000XXXP JOB04145 2010/08/17 02.48.19 0 4272 0 > > 0 > > A000XXX1 JOB09419 2010/08/17 04.04.37 0 4272 0 > > 0 > > A000XXX1 JOB03807 2010/08/17 02.49.22 0 4272 0 > > 0 > > A000XXX1 JOB07761 2010/08/17 03.37.35 0 4272 0 > > 0 > > A000XXX1 JOB03804 2010/08/17 02.48.08 0 4272 0 > > 0 > > A000XXX1 JOB05159 2010/08/17 02.49.42 0 4272 0 > > 0 > > A000XXXP JOB03653 2010/08/17 02.48.01 0 4272 0 > > 0 > > A000XXXP JOB08116 2010/08/17 04.00.34 0 2848 0 > > 0 > > A000XXX1 JOB08158 2010/08/17 04.01.20 0 2848 0 > > 0 > > A000XXX1 JOB07692 2010/08/17 03.23.56 0 2848 0 > > 0 > > A000XXX1 JOB07662 2010/08/17 03.20.06 0 2848 0 > > 0 > > A000XXXP JOB09364 2010/08/17 04.02.37 0 2848 0 > > 0 > > A000XXX1 JOB09814 2010/08/17 04.35.02 0 2848 0 > > 0 > > A000XXXP JOB07802 2010/08/17 03.44.06 0 2848 0 > > 0 > > A000XXX1 JOB07534 2010/08/17 03.04.15 0 2848 0 > > 0 > > A000XXX1 JOB07809 2010/08/17 03.45.36 0 2848 0 > > 0 > > A000XXX1 JOB07528 2010/08/17 03.03.35 0 2848 0 > > 0 > > A000XXX1 JOB11425 2010/08/17 06.06.51 0 2848 0 > > 0 > > A000XXX1 JOB10583 2010/08/17 05.47.48 0 2848 0 > > 0 > > A000XXX1 JOB07697 2010/08/17 03.25.44 0 2848 0 > > 0 > > A000XXX1 JOB09473 2010/08/17 04.07.49 0 2848 0 > > 0 > > A000XXX1 JOB07353 2010/08/17 02.53.27 0 2848 0 > > 0 > > A000XXX1 JOB07660 2010/08/17 03.19.36 0 2848 0 > > 0 > > A000XXXP JOB07862 2010/08/17 03.50.25 0 2848 0 > > 0 > > A000XXX1 JOB07589 2010/08/17 03.09.09 0 2848 0 > > 0 > > A000XXX1 JOB13001 2010/08/17 07.30.29 0 2848 0 > > 0 > > A000XXX1 JOB10328 2010/08/17 05.11.05 0 2848 0 > > 0 > > A000XXX1 JOB07384 2010/08/17 02.58.43 0 2848 0 > > 0 > > A000XXX1 JOB07386 2010/08/17 02.58.56 0 2848 0 > > 0 > > A000XXX1 JOB11968 2010/08/17 06.47.55 0 2848 0 > > 0 > > A000XXXP JOB11432 2010/08/17 06.08.21 0 1424 0 > > 0 > > A000XXX1 JOB13044 2010/08/17 07.39.03 0 1424 0 > > 0 > > A000XXXP JOB13063 2010/08/17 07.41.53 0 1424 0 > > 0 > > A000XXX1 JOB12801 2010/08/17 07.17.50 0 1424 0 > > 0 > > A000XXXP JOB11716 2010/08/17 06.26.32 0 1424 0 > > 0 > > A000XXX1 JOB11651 2010/08/17 06.19.35 0 1424 0 > > 0 > > A000XXX1 JOB11461 2010/08/17 06.12.05 0 1424 0 > > 0 > > A000XXX1 JOB13053 2010/08/17 07.40.39 0 1424 0 > > 0 > > A000XXX1 JOB11676 2010/08/17 06.22.27 0 1424 0 > > 0 > > A000XXX1 JOB07987 2010/08/17 03.51.52 0 1424 0 > > 0 > > A000XXX1 JOB11639 2010/08/17 06.17.27 0 1424 0 > > 0 > > A000XXX1 JOB11283 2010/08/17 06.03.45 0 1424 0 > > 0 > > A000XXXP JOB08018 2010/08/17 03.54.33 0 1424 0 > > 0 > > A000XXX1 JOB14962 2010/08/17 07.59.02 0 1424 0 > > 0 > > A000XXXP JOB14922 2010/08/17 07.54.03 0 1424 0 > > 0 > > A000XXX1 JOB12824 2010/08/17 07.18.25 0 1424 0 > > 0 > > A000XXX1 JOB13188 2010/08/17 07.49.36 0 1424 0 > > 0 > > > > > > > > Regards, > > Thomas Berg > > _________________________________________ > > Thomas Berg Specialist A M SWEDBANK > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
