>John Anderson (IBM) no-vendors-allowed discussion list for open
discussion by IBM customers of ISV cost issues.

http://www.can.ibm.com/isvcosts/
...

Also, two other rules:
1. No IBM employees.
2. You must use your work ID. I tried with this one, since my company refuses 
to let anybody speak for them, or mention
the environment.
No dice.

-teD
Me? A skeptic? I trust you have proof!

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