Although it is an intrusion (with serious consequences) I wouldn't count
guessing a userid/password a crack.  Likewise gaining access by cracking
an attached squatty box. 

Gaining access programmatically/directly is another issue. 

-----Original Message-----
Elardus Engelbrecht

Joe Mc wrote:

>I'm getting into a rather heated argument with a non mainframe 
>colleague
about whether the mainframe has been hacked or not. Legitimate hacking,
not a disgruntled employee doing something illegal and not loss of tapes
or other media. I'm talking the mainframe platform. Thoughts?

What mainframe platform? I'm serious, because 'mainframe' is ambigious.

For z/OS, *cracking* into it may be difficult. But see [1] below.

With 3270 emulator, 'hacking' *could* be possible by installing 'screen
scraper' 
and/or keystroke logger software.

Did that happened? Hmmm, good question.

If you do bad design on your web pages hosted by, for example WebSphere,
some bad*ss could overwrite your page(s) with some nasty message(s) like
this one: 'A L33T was here.'

So in theory, it is possible, but if you can get me real practical
incident(s) [2], I would really like to find out about it.

[1] - There are 'tiger team' companies who can *hack* or *crack* upon
request and after paying a fee.

[2] - Real incidents, not some rotten fruits from lame bored reporter.

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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