Jim

I had all of this in draft before you confessed. Nevertheless, there is many a 
true word spoken in jest so I'll let it all stand - although there's a 
supposition 
that has become a bit pointless ...

-

Thank you for your emollient contribution.

I hope you don't mind the resetting of the Subject since this subdiscussion 
has no connection with "list etiquette.

> Perhaps some form of hybrid acronym like zUSS could serve as being both 
highly compact and descriptive, while 
avoiding potential confusion with prior art.

However, applying Occam's razor, I see no need to invent yet another 
abbreviation when as John McKown indicated a perfectly satisfactory one 
already exists which offers no room for misunderstanding, namely z/OS UNIX - 
although I think I've seen the contraction to zUNIX suggested - which weighs 
in as only one letter more than your suggestion.

Having noted John McKown's reiteration that z/OS UNIX is the preferred 
abbreviation for z/OS UNIX System Services - dropping the words which really 
add almost nothing to an understanding of what the component is all about, I 
realised that actually no such alternative exists for VTAM's Unformatted 
System Services. That in itself should clarify the minds of the fair-minded 
among us - which I fear, from the evidence of a number of skirmishes around 
this topic, is not an universal set.

> Furthermore, it could establish a precedent for selecting acronyms for 
describing similar interface layers on other platforms. Some might even 
consider such acronyms to be apropos, especially with regard to a widely user 
operating system on x86.

I'm sure you have the kernel - a play on words detected only after 
composition! - of a fine idea here but it may be you have assumed some 
similarity between USS as used in the VTAM context since the mid-1970s and 
USS as misused in the context of the official UNIX in the "MVS" environment, 
emerging in 1993, which eventually came to be known as z/OS UNIX System 
Services sometime later.

The only commonality between the two is the use of the general purpose 
words "system" and "services". Unfortunately "Unformatted" has the same 
initial letter as "unified" or "united" which may - the Wikipedia article only 
hints
[1] - be the source of the initial letter of "Unics" which became "Unix" - or 
probably incorrectly - there I go again! - "UNIX" incorrect because it is not a 
short form for four words with initial letters U, N, I and X.

It is possible however - as might happen in a thread Subject line - to refer to 
an USS *command* which could be confused with the commands of the UNIX 
environment and to refer to an USS *message* which could be confused with 
some reference to output messages pertaining to the UNIX environment. It 
actually happened eighteen months ago in a thread I was following because it 
appeared likely to involve the Communications Server (CS), IP and/or SNA 
(VTAM), components with the Subject line "Mainframe hacking".[2] An "uss 
screen" was mentioned which was a perfectly correct reference to VTAM's 
USS but was taken as a reference to z/OS UNIX System Services which 
mistake, because from other posts I know the poor deluded contributor is 
quite familiar with CS, can only have been made because of the "hijack" effect 
Ted MacNeil is promoting. It's that sort of possibility that causes my blood to 
switch from Fahrenheit to Centigrade.

Incidentally, it was your colleague John Eells who provided the post I seem to 
have to quote frequently to the nay-sayers which explained - and confirmed - 
that the letters "USS" should have nothing whatsoever at all in this world to 
do with z/OS UNIX System Services. He did however bemoan that trying to 
maintain standards such as this was akin to "herding cats"!

Chris Mason

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix

<quote>

In the 1970s Brian Kernighan coined the project name Unics as a play on 
Multics, (Multiplexing Information and Computer Services). Unics could 
eventually support multiple simultaneous users, and it was renamed Unix.

</quote>

[2] Likely to attract folk directly or indirectly related to commercial 
enterprises 
offering advice of dubious validity laced with FUD directed at SNA products 
and architecture.

On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 02:29:43 -0500, Jim Mulder <[email protected]> 
wrote:

>   Perhaps  some form of hybrid acronym like  zUSS
>could serve as being  both highly  compact  and descriptive, while
>avoiding potential confusion with prior art.
>
>  Furthermore, it could establish a precedent for selecting acronyms
>for describing similar interface layers on other platforms.   Some might
>even consider such acronyms to be apropos, especially with regard
>to a widely user operating system on x86.
>
>"That was the last arrow in my quiver of whimsy."
>     -Amy Farrah Fowler
>
>Jim Mulder   z/OS System Test   IBM Corp.  Poughkeepsie,  NY

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