Thanks... My memory seemed too jump when I saw QBE... I think that was it. THE BIG block letters on the screen were QBE.
I do not know How I ever forgot those initials but I did. Now onto QBE. Was it iBM code or an IUP or ... ????. A quick google says it was written by IBM. Ed Anyh ________________________________ From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, March 8, 2011 2:11:33 PM Subject: Re: Maybe off topic [email protected] (Hal Merritt) writes: > I seem to recall working on a product called SLR (Service Level > Reporter). My (very poor) memory is of databases that looked a lot > like those later introduced by DB2. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/~lynn/2011d.html#52 Maybe off topic http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/~lynn/2011d.html#54 Maybe off topic dating back before sql (originally on vm370) were some 4th generation languages that were offered by virtual machine based commercial service bureaus (initially late 60s, cp67 and later vm370) ... RAMIS, NOMAD, FOCUS (in some cases developed as part of competition between different virtual machine based commercial service bureaus) RAMIS wiki page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramis_Software NOMAD wiki page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomad_software FOCUS wiki page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOCUS RAMIS and NOMAD reference at computer history museum http://www.computerhistory.org/collections/accession/102658182 Computer History Museum PDF file: http://archive.computerhistory.org/resources/text/Oral_History/RAMIS_and_NOMAD/RAMIS_and_NOMAD.National_CSS.oral_history.2005.102658182.pdf RAMIS & FOCUS ... brief history of 4th gen languages: http://ibmmainframes.com/about5018.html The Wholly Unofficial NOMAD Website http://www.decosta.com/Nomad/ also in the time-frame of SQL/RDBMS being done at SJR (research on the west coast) there was query-by-example being done at YKT (research on the east coast) ... old email about QBE presentation at SJR (by "Father of QBE, Arch-enemy of System R"): http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002e.html#email800310 in this old post http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002e.html#44 SQL wildcard origins? QBE wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Query_by_Example then there is this on "pre-history" (also from the 95 reunion): http://www.mcjones.org/System_R/SQL_Reunion_95/sqlr95-Prehisto.html Ingres has gone thru multiple incarnations ... we worked with them in the 90s as part of our high-availability, cluster operation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingres_%28database%29 in conjunction with HA/CMP product: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/clresctr/vxrx/topic/com.ibm.cluster.hacmp.doc/hacmpbooks.html past posts http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hacmp mention that original INGRES language was QUEL http://www.mcjones.org/System_R/SQL_Reunion_95/sqlr95-Teradata.html above also mentions that a spinoff from INGRES project was Britton-Lee ... including Bob Epstien as CTO. When Bob left for Teradata (and then later founded Sybase), there was lots of recruiting going on around bldg28/SJR (usually across the street from the plant site) for replacement for Bob. Of course not nearly on the scale of Shugart recruiting disk engineers http://www.businessweek.com/1997/34/trans34/shugart.htm http://www.mdhc.scu.edu/100th/Progress/Shugart/shugart.html Sybase wiki ... we also worked with in porting to HA/CMP cluster mode: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sybase Above mentions Sybase had a deal with Microsoft to remarket as "SQL Server" (... until version 4.9, Sybase and Microsoft SQL Server were virtually identical) Oracle wiki page (started out as "SDL", Oracel name came from CIA-funded project that Ellison had worked on at Ampex) ... we also worked with (RDBMS) Oracle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oracle_Database as referenced in this post about old Jan92 meeting in Ellison's conference room http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#13 Oracle wiki mentions it was the first commercially available SQL-based RDBMS (1979) ... as opposed to first commercial RDBMS (Multics 1976). http://www.mcjones.org/System_R/mrds.htm The other major RDBMS player from the period (that we worked with in HA/CMP) was Informix (before IBM bought them) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Informix DB2 was rather late RDBMS to ship ... largely because EAGLE was the MVS strategic DBMS ... and it wasn't only after EAGLE effort crashed was there the rush to get System/R (and SQL/DS) over to MVS for DB2. DB2 announced 7Jun1983, avail. 2Apr1985 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_DB2 note that in 1989 ... there was work on totally different DB2 ... targeted for OS2. past posts mentioning System/R http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#systemr also past posts getting to play disk engineer in bldgs14&15 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#disk -- virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
