Maybe but he understood MINE. :-) Martin Packer, Mainframe Performance Consultant, zChampion Worldwide Banking Center of Excellence, IBM
+44-7802-245-584 email: [email protected] Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker From: David Crayford <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Date: 17/03/2011 12:43 Subject: Re: Why is WTO so much easier to use than better methods? (Was RE: Trouble Reading a Spanned File with an Assembler Program - Working Program) Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> gil, I think you misunderstood my point. I was talking about printf() and where it routes it's output. On 17/03/2011 8:24 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 19:31:22 +0800, David Crayford wrote: >> In a non-zUnix environment stdout is SYSPRINT. So in TSO it writes to >> the terminal and in batch to a SYSPRINT DD. If you >> don't specify a SYSPRINT DD it will dynamically allocate a sysout data >> set. I believe in CICS it writes to the log? >> > Not really. It's application dependent and wretchedly inconsistent. > I see: > > UNIX stdout stderr > > Assembler SYSPRINT SYSTERM > > IEBGENER SYSUT1 SYSPRINT > > Batch TMP SYSTSPRT > > TSO Terminal > > It's a real shame that: > > o TSO didn't originally read from/write to DDNAMES rather > than inventing the idiosyncratic TGET/TPUT > > o DDNAME redirection wasn't made a basic capability of > data management rather than implemented sporadically by > various applications, often by positional entries in a > second PARM. > > o Rexx, which internally has separate interfaces for data > output and message output, has no provision for externally > directing them to different DDNAMEs/descriptors. > > -- gil > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
