John, 7 and 8 contradict one another do they not?
Chris Mason ----- Original Message ----- From: "McKown, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, 28 November, 2005 5:36 PM Subject: Re: Running COBOL under z/os.e > > -----Original Message----- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock > > Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 8:51 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: Running COBOL under z/os.e > > > > > > McKown, John wrote: > > [snip] > > > > > > I was thinking of CGIs. I was also thinking of the HTTPD server. We > > > don't have Websphere. Perhaps Websphere has things in it to make > > > developing CGI-like applications in COBOL easier. When we > > tried to do > > > CGI in COBOL a few years ago, it was very difficult due to not being > > > able to use "stdin" and "stdout" directly from COBOL code, > > using COBOL > > > verbs. I haven't looked at this since installing Enterprise > > COBOL, so > > > maybe it is easier now. > > > > > > > Yes, well you can "Accept input_area from keyboard-in" to > > read from stdin (in the special-names paragraph say "sysin > > is keyboar-in.") > > > > And your basic "display" statement sends stuff to stdout. > > Nothing hard in this. > > > > <ad, of course> > > We cover working with stdin and stdout from COBOL, Assembler, > > PL/I, and C using native constructs and C functions in our > > 3 day course "Developing Applicaions in z/OS UNIX". We also > > cover accessing MVS files and HFS files from these languages, > > compiling, assembling, binding, and running under the shell, > > using "make", dynamically invoking programs stored with long, > > case-sensitive names stored in the HFS, and more. Details at: > > http://www.trainersfriend.com/UNIX_and_Web_courses/u520descr.htm > > > > Be sure to follow the links to the course objectives and the > > detailed topical outline for more information. > > </ad> > > > > Kind regards, > > > > -Steve Comstock > > > > Steve, > > Thanks for the update on Enterprise COBOL. > > I wish that we were in the position to use some training, but z/OS is > moribund here. Everybody is totally convinced of the following "facts": > (1) z/OS is incapable of running current internet type applications; (2) > z/OS is dying in the marketplace, at least for our size shop (~ 300 > MIPS); (3) z/OS is far too expensive when compared to Windows; (4) z/OS > is more difficult to develop for than Windows; (5) z/OS people are too > rare and expensive; (6) z/OS people are too resistant to change; (7) > z/OS is proprietary, whereas Windows is "open"; (8) z/OS is more > difficult to maintain due to the dependance on OEM software. Windows is > better because MS supplies all the software, so it is better integrated. > > Note that some of the above have elements of truth. Others are totally > contrary to fact. But "perception IS reality" as we have often been > told. > > -- > John McKown > Senior Systems Programmer > UICI Insurance Center > Information Technology ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
