On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 19:48:59 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: >on 11/30/2005 at 01:35 PM, "Farley, Peter x23353" said: > >>Let me just relate the point of view of the simple application >>programmer: Symbolics are a Good Thing, and I ought to be able to use >>them in my ordinary Batch JCL. As for values, I would expect them to >>reflect the EXECUTION-time environment and no other. > >There's no way that IBM could do that. Conversion time is a snap, >Interpretation time would take a lot of work, but Execution time is >flatly impossible.
No, not impossible, but certainly much more effort which would either amount to a redesign of allocation or, perhaps, a very inventive mind within z/OS development. Please do not discount that second case as IBM has very bright, inventive people who maybe weren't given a sufficiently broad scope (playground) to work in the first time the symbolics were addressed in MVS/ESA. One potential method, for example, might be to modify symbolic JCL so that it points to a SUBSYS instead of standard DASD/TAPE, then the "SYMB" subsystem (for example) would be able to kick in a different response at OPEN (for the extremely delayed case) or Allocation time. Granted, it would take a few weekends of coding... (and not by some wannabe system adminstrator). -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

