We used the Vanguard Corporation to help with a project to convert one site's 
CA-TSS security to RACF.  We also used the same corporation to convert another 
site from CA-ACF2 to RACF.  We also use the Vanguard Security Administration 
and Reporting products to enhance the RACF security administration 
capabilities. We do not use the RACF SDSF panels for administration. These 
projects were initiated by the Ahold Corporation to support the security 
support for the companies it was providing computer support. These project 
eliminated the need to have expertise in all three mainframe security products. 
 These projects were not initiated by HP.    

Regards
Otto Schumacher
 
HP Enterprise Services
Infrastructure Specialist
Ahold Account
CICS & Capacity Technical Support
P.O. Box 6462
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Rob Schramm
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 12:29 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: RACF and TSS in the Parallel Sysplex

Hal,

I think I would both respectively disagree and agree.  Dang there I go
hanging out on both sides of the fence.

As a general matter of keeping things simple, sure going with just one
security product would be a good idea.

But in this case, the zNALC is going to have a very limited user base
and the data set security layout should be able to be duplicated with
some basic work (unless it is a mess ... in which case it represents
an opportunity to clean things up and standardize).

In the light of opportunity, it is a clear opportunity to beat CA over
the head to fix licensing costs.  It is always better to hold up the
proverbial loaded gun when negotiating.  Having RACF in-house give the
opportunity to generally explore, compare, and gain some experience
with RACF.

Also, with all the conversion experts out there.. there are some tools
to generally convert Top Secret into RACF without completing the rest
of the conversion for the other LPARs.

If there is a user provisioning product, it may be able to handle the
added product as well.

Rob Schramm
Senior Systems Consultant
Imperium Group LLC
w: 513.305.6224



On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Dana Mitchell <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 10:33:48 -0400, Perry Mayes <PERRY.MAYES@RCMP-
> GRC.GC.CA> wrote:
>
>>
>>Has anyone done this with success?
>>
>>Thanks
>>
> I worked with a previous installation that had a mixture of RACF and TSS
> systems in a sysplex with no problems.   Granted, this was a 'Bronzeplex' by
> IBM's definition,   so there was a minimum of  datasharing going on (Logger
> and GRS star).     As far as I know this is still operating this way today.
>
> Dana
>
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