On 18 Aug 2011 14:00:39 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:

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>This person had a user-id and password with privileges. Think of the 
>harm someone with a system programmers id and privileges can do. For 
>those of you who have been at a number of shops, how many were really 
>careful about ids and their revocation. Most of the ones I was at were 
>and I am not certain about the others. The problem was the security 
>culture and I guarantee you that not all mainframe shops are really good 
>about it.
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>In my last shop, the head of security administration (one of my many 
>hats) had to be informed BEFORE the person being terminated. Id he/she 
>was logged on, I was to revoke the userid and if logged on, cancel the 
>session. The person being terminated was escorted off the premises and 
>could make arrangements to clean out personnal property at a later date.
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>I also would almost guarantee you there are a number of Unix and Windows 
>shops that take it very seriously.
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>Then why in God's name are they running Windoze and/or UNIX??
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>How quickly do mainframe shops apply the PTF's for integrity APARs? How 
>quickly do the other environments apply the comparable fixes?
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>For our MVS-OS/390-z/OS environment(s), we always let PTF's age for 30 
>days, partly to let someone else debug them and partly to evaluate their 
>impact in our shop. Then we decided whether to apply or not. For the 
>Windoze and UNIX weenies, I can't say.


Which means you leave the security hole fixed by the integrity APAR
open for 30 days.  In at least some Windows and Unix shops, the
comparable fixes get a higher priority.
>
>Rick
>

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