Greetings, There are two responses to desperation: One is submission The other is resistance - fight. If they get 10 takers at 40 they can talk one of them down to 35. Nothing to do but drink: If you accept the offer you will need to drink - repeately and constantly. A solution requires dealing with the flood of H1B workers in many disciplines. The American worker must have a political voice: I think that this voice needs to be outside of a technology circle - in the heart of political activism. Not here, but here is a start. If resistance is futile and the offer is $40,000 resist - can someone flowchart this? Thank you. Steven
> Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 13:45:43 -0500 > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: z/OS Systems Programmer Jobs in Dubuque Iowa > To: [email protected] > > Nice try, Bob, but I couldn't live on $40k in MY circumstances. > > Rick > --------------------------------------------------------- > Richards, Robert B. wrote: > > >Ladies and Gentlemen, > > > >How many of you would settle for $40,000 in this economy if you were already > >semi-retired, willing to move to a low cost of living area and bored to > >death with that semi-retirement? Or were already out of work and have > >exhausted your unemployment benefits? > > > >Granted, I will be the first to say that a $40,000/yr salary *is not* > >appropriate for a younger man or woman with kids still in the nest. But > >let's be real, this can be just fine for some people under certain > >circumstances. > > > >In the past, salaries this low were just another ploy to validate H1B visa > >positions. But seeing that Eric posted the requirement, I'll take Eric's > >request as bona fide. > > > >Bob > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > >Of John P Kalinich > >Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 7:34 AM > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: Re: z/OS Systems Programmer Jobs in Dubuque Iowa > > > >/* Rexx */ > >dubuque = (40000*2.5)+10000+15000 > > > > > > > > From: Bobbie Justice <[email protected]> > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Date: 09/07/2011 05:24 PM > > > > Subject: Re: z/OS Systems Programmer Jobs in Dubuque Iowa > > > > > > > > > > > > > >let me put it this way, I told them they needed to multiply the current > >salary they were "offering" based on their requirements by about 2 and 1/2 > >times, then add another $10,000 on top of that since I would eventually get > >tired of looking at Iowa cornfields, and then add another $15,000 on top of > >that since it's a known sweat shop. > > > >In other words, the salary was nowhere close to what it should have been > >for that position. > > > >Bobbie Jo Justice > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > >send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > >Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

