Well .....

For CA-IDMS that's exactly what I do (we do not have MSM yet installed, but 
even if we did - I would first want to non-MSM install a product, then a MSM 
install and compare the results)
 
I put in a request - CA spits me back a "from" path, and I FTP the pax file 
directly to the mainframe, unpack and unload - and I am ready to install just 
as if it had been delivered on tape!

Is IDMS the only CA product that allows this choice of acquisition ? I hope not

Chris Hoelscher
IDMS & DB2 Database Administrator
502-476-2538

You only need to test the programs you don't want to get called on later


-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Jousma, David
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 2:00 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] CA MSM v4 on z/os 1.9

Jim,

You see that's the problem.  I really don't want to install another product, 
just to help maintain the others.  Just another product to keep current.  
Honestly, the biggest hassle is just finding the maintenance
and downloading it.   And at that, not a huge problem that I need to
have another piece of software to do it.  And it's not like MSM is a 
"light-weight" product either, with ZFS file systems, STc's, etc all needed 
just run it.

Nothing is easier than running a SMPE receive order.

Even if CA just had a FTP site that I could access directly and download and 
then receive the maintenance for each product I would be happy.

We already have a process/method to deploy updates, so that doesn't buy me 
anything.  We only touch a product once per year(unless a fix is needed for a 
problem).

_________________________________________________________________
Dave Jousma
Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Services [email protected]
1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI  49546 MD RSCB2H p 616.653.8429 f 616.653.2717


-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Jim Petersen
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 1:39 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: CA MSM v4 on z/os 1.9

Actually, MSM V4 is really great for downloading new Products or new releases 
of Products or Maintenance for Products and then installing them.  For me, it 
has really speeded things up for getting new releases or maintenance on current 
releases on.

Not to mention, the ability to deploy those products to another site in your 
company.

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MVS - Lead Systems Engineer
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