On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 17:51:33 -0500, Rich Greenberg wrote:

>In article you write:
>>On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 10:01:36 -0800, Edward Jaffe  wrote:
>>>
>>>I've noticed for a long time now that every time you respond on IBM-MAIN it
>>>starts a new thread in my mail client (Thunderbird). I finally decided to
>>>compare headers from your non-threaded posts to other peoples' threaded 
>>>posts.
>>>What I see is that the requisite "In-Reply-To:" header element, necessary to
>>>properly thread messages together, is missing from your responses. Is there 
>>>any
>>>way to fix that?
>>>
>>I usually read and post to IBM-MAIN using the web interface.  So this seems
>>to be a LISTSERV problem.  Is Darren IBM-MAIN's interface to L-Soft?
>
>No, its not a problem, its just an artifact of how this list works.
> 
Subjectively, it's a problem.

>You may not realize it but there are TWO entities called IBM-MAIN.
>One is a mailing list hosted at the listserver at bama.ua.edu.
>The second is the usenet group named "bit.listserv.ibm-main".
>
I'm well aware of this.

>The mailing list has a gateway to the usenet group but there is no
>reverse gateway.  There used to be but it was taken down due to abuse.
> 
This has often been discussed here.

>So if someone originates a post by sending it to the mailing list, it
>will appear there and ALSO on the usenet group.  But if someone
>originates a post on usenet, it will not be sent to the mailing list.
>Google Groups is fed from usenet so it is complete.  The mailing list
>archives are ONLY fed by the listserv so they will miss anything that
>was only posted on usenet.
> 
Also well known.

>For folks who normally read usenet or Google Groups (which IS usenet
>although Goggle would like you to believe otherwise) here is what I do
>and what I suggest all usenet readers do also:
> 
I don't normally use Google groups, and I have no other access to Usenet.

>1) Subscribe to the mailing list.

I do.

>2) Set yourself to NOMAIL on the listserv.

I did that long ago.

>3) When responding to a usenet post, DON'T use Followup.  Instead use
>   Reply and make sure that the email address gets set to:
>   "To: [email protected]".
>
I don't use Usenet.

>That way your response will be seen on both the mailing list and on
>usenet, and will be in the IBM-MAIN archives at bama.
> 
Are you perhaps addressing a different problem from the problem
(or non-problem, in your perception) that Ed reported?

-- gil

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