I'm obliged to do some fancy copy and paste here. Is there a technique for
replying to a non-e-mail post with an e-mail?

Bruce,

<snip>
I'm concerned about side effects.  Does anyone know of any other products,
IBM or otherwise, that rely on BNJMTERM even if NetView is not used?
<end snip>

By virtue of the fact that the first three letters of the module are BNJ the
module is identified - according to a long-established IBM tradition - with
a particular product, namely the Hardware Monitor component of NetView,
known, in a past life, when it was a distinct product, as NetView Problem
Determination Application, NPDA. Thus no IBM product other than NetView can
possibly have an interest in BNJMTERM nor should any non-IBM product if they
know what's good for them. Do I detect the same sort of nervousness that
attends trying to remove a program from Windows and being presented with
those "Are you sure you want to delete, another program could be using this
dll" or whatever messages?

That technique John Eells mentions for threading a belt through the loops on
the top of your trousers even when you already have braces looks like it
might be a suitable general technique. Perhaps all modules specified in the
IEAVTRML CSECT could be put in a special link list library as aliases of
IEFBR14 as a way of guarding against that IPL failure.

<snip>
Another question I have is where is IEAVTRML documented?
<end snip>

As I understood John Eells's first post in this thread, the use of the
IEAVTRML CSECT has been replaced by the "RESMGR service" - and for many
years now. Thus knowing all about the IEAVTRML CSECT may not be a productive
use of your time. However, with any luck, the reference John gave you may be
describing where "memory termination routines" fit in the grand scheme of
things and both the "RESMGR service" and the use of IEAVTRML will be covered
as the alternative ways of providing the names of such routines.

<snip>
Just a curiosity item... how'd it get nicknamed "Mr. Clean"?
<end snip>

I wonder if this is a consequence of just not being oriented to those
initial three characters as MVS graybeards have long ago learnt to be.
"DFSMRCL0" breaks down into "DFS" as the three characters that define an IMS
module and then the rest "MRCL0". This thread is the first time I've heard
of this module being called "Mr Clean" but I can easily see that (1) the
rest of the module name easily becomes "MR CLean" - the "0" doesn't count
obviously - and (2) a "memory termination routine" is concerned with
sweeping up any possible mess as I tend to detect from this description.

Chris Mason

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