First to Mr "freelance", I spotted that you had also posted on the bit.listserv.vse-l group. You may like to add a post to your original in order to say the topic has sparked a discussion in the bit.listserv.ibm-main group. This way people will learn most and waste least time. It's normal when duplicate or more posting to say so in each group.
Ed, If I were cynical I could suspect that you just got rid of your 3745s and associated (through not exclusively so) software last week/last year/only 5 years ago but you have conditioned your mind into wishing it was a lot longer ago - hence the (deliberate) mistakes :-) or maybe :-( - leaving just enough clues for some poor "IBM networker" to pick up the hints. As John Chase pointed out (and he obviously never got his head round how to specify just the reports you actually needed - understandable) the product component is ACF/TAP and it is a component of ACF/SSP (not SSL). In longhand that's ACF = Advanced Communications Function, TAP = Trace Analysis Program and SSP = System Support Programs. The ACF is there - and seems to have stuck - because TAP was added to SSP at the time VTAM, NCP and SSP went "program product" in the late seventies and they all got ACF stuck in front of them in order to distinguish them from the "at no extra charge" predecessors. Happily the ACF got dropped from VTAM, NCP and SSP some time ago. There is clearly an issue about access to TAP in the era of trying to convert SNA mainframe networking away from 3745s and NCP when SSP, as a whole, becomes unnecessary. Since I am no longer in the thick of things, I will have to leave that for someone else to answer that conundrum. In principle, if you want to read about the 3745, NCP and related products you can use this URL where you will find a number of PDFs: http://www.networking.ibm.com/support/docs.nsf/3745docs?openview That's the "good news"; the "bad news" is that NCP V7R7, SSP V4R7, and EP R14 Trace Analysis Handbook (Licensed), LY43-0037-05, being "Licensed" is not available as a PDF, neither is NCP V7R7, SSP V4R7, and EP R14 Diagnosis Guide (Licensed), LY43-0033-06 which I guessed might be the most appropriate manual until I spotted the Trace Analysis Handbook lower down the list. Having had the IBM Publications search page pointed out to me in an earlier post in this thread I tried "NCP, SSP, and EP Resource Definition Reference" (SC31-6224-07) and got a more "comfortable" "Read" format. I'll be using this in future. Unfortunately no such luck with NCP V7R6, SSP V4R6, EP R12 Trace Analysis Handbook (LY43-0037-05) which requires the expenditure of USD 21.75 (not including taxes) to be viewed. Chris Mason ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Gould" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, 15 February, 2006 9:47 PM Subject: Re: VTAM Trace and manuals > On Feb 15, 2006, at 4:31 AM, Chris Mason wrote: > > > A reference to the following appeared in a Google Groups digest > > but not in my reader. I'll be interested to see whether or not this > > response will be correctly attached to the original. I suspect not. > > If not, perhaps someone will explain how postings get "connected". > > > > freelance wrote: > > > > Hi, I'm trying to read a Vtam trace. > > Anyone knows what manual do I need? > > I guess I need at least the following: > > Systems Network Architecture: Formats (GA27-3136) > > Anyone knows where I can find it online, or if there is some kind of > > "tutorial" ? > > Thank you ! > > > > --- > I believe that there (at least at one time there was) a program that > was called "TAF" (or was it called TAP?) It was document, IIRC the > the SSL (utilities for the 37XX box). My memory is not to good on > this one but I do remember using it *AGES* ago. > > Ed ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
