On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 11:46:26 +0100, R.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: <snip> >> 1) Keep uneducated people (even fellow sysprogs) from allocating junk on >> the sysres (set). It gets "lost" when cloning (not cataloged to >> the IPL volume) Well.. not really lost until we re-clone over >> the volume that it was cataloged to, then it is lost.
<snip> >IMHO first reason is not reasonable. Uneducated people shouldn't be able >to allocate anything out of SMS. As additional resort of protection >mount attributes (STORAGE, PRIVATE, PUBLIC) and IGGPRE00 can be used. > How large is your shop? Have you ever worked in a very large one? The CICS, DB2, MQ, WAS, ISV product installers etc. all have valid reasons for allocating non-sms controlled libraries so you can't lock them out completely (you are also assuming the shop is close to 100% SMS and most shops I've been at still don't SMS control system software data sets). At some shops (including my current one) the people I've mentioned are in different locations as well which can also lead to the "mistakes" - even from very experienced sysprogs who just may not be familiar with the standards for the environment they are working in. In a small shop where only a small number of people install software and you can just shout over the next cube to someone, of course this could be considered overkill or unnecessary. Anwyay, we don't do this here (and I consider us a very large shop), but you asked why one might want to and I gave a couple of reasons why. You don't have to agree nor ever implement any exits to do it if you don't want to. :-) Cheers, Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America and Farmers Insurance Group mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

