On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 11:46:26 +0100, R.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

<snip>
>> 1) Keep uneducated people (even fellow sysprogs) from allocating junk on
>>    the sysres (set).  It gets "lost" when cloning (not cataloged to
>>    the IPL volume) Well.. not really lost until we re-clone over
>>    the volume that it was cataloged to, then it is lost.

<snip>
>IMHO first reason is not reasonable. Uneducated people shouldn't be able
>to allocate anything out of SMS. As additional resort of protection
>mount attributes (STORAGE, PRIVATE, PUBLIC) and IGGPRE00 can be used.
>

How large is your shop?  Have you ever worked in a very large one?  The
CICS, DB2, MQ, WAS, ISV product installers etc. all have valid reasons
for allocating non-sms controlled libraries so you can't lock them out
completely (you are also assuming the shop is close to 100% SMS and
most shops I've been at still don't SMS control system software data
sets).  At some shops (including my current one) the people I've
mentioned are in different locations as well which can also lead to the
"mistakes" - even from very experienced sysprogs who just may not be
familiar with the standards for the environment they are working in.

In a small shop where only a small number of people install software
and you can just shout over the next cube to someone, of course
this could be considered overkill or unnecessary.

Anwyay, we don't do this here (and I consider us a very large shop),
but you asked why one might want to and I gave a couple of reasons why.
You don't have to agree nor ever implement any exits to do it if you
don't want to.  :-)

Cheers,

Mark
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