Paul,

Happily I kept this post for review - actually just before an intended
purge.

I see that the URL for a "Contents" page requires only the text up to, but
not including, "/CCONTENTS". The text from and including "/CCONTENTS" may be
ditched. That's useful to know - and if I was awake I should have tried it.
Thus the "wrap" is less likely.

Thanks

Chris Mason

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Gilmartin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, 06 March, 2006 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: Manual References in Posts (was Update a module in LPA ?)


> In a recent note, Chris Mason said:
>
> > Date:         Mon, 6 Mar 2006 20:35:59 +0100
> >
> > Bruce here is pure goodness in providing just the needed manual
reference.
> >
> My thanks, also, to Bruce and others who do likewise.  Even a document
> number helps.
>
> > What isn't quite pure goodness, in my opinion, is that it's a PDF file.
It's
> > much faster to provide the CONTENTS page of the "book" rather than a
PDF.
> > For example, for z/OS V1R7.0 MVS System Commands it's
> >
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/IEA2G160/CCONTENTS?SHELF=EZ2ZO10F&DN=SA22-7627-12&DT=20050714212238
> >
> Actually, it's intact as served by bama.ua.edu.  So your MUA, any
intervening
> MTAs (poor Charlie), and LISTSERV are friendly to it.  No representations
> made for any recipient software.
>
> > which I expect will need a "watch the wrap" warning. It may be
friendlier to
> > specify an URL which the list server system will not cut such as -
praying
> > <g>:
> Why do they do that?  From RFC 821:
>
>       4.5.3.  SIZES
>
>          There are several objects that have required minimum maximum
>          sizes.  That is, every implementation must be able to receive
>          objects of at least these sizes, but must not send objects
>          larger than these sizes.
>              [ ...]
>
>             text line
>
>                The maximum total length of a text line including the
>                <CRLF> is 1000 characters (but not counting the leading
>                dot duplicated for transparency).
>
> Here, though, IBM shares the blame.  The VM/CMS implementation of SMTP
> (optionally) used virtual readers and punches as a Mail vehicle, thus
> enforcing (in violation of RFC 821) an 82-character limit.
>
> > http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/Shelves/EZ2CMZ60
> > We'll see if that worked required a cut or not.
> >
> Which isn't the same.  Perhaps:
>
> http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/IEA2G160
>
> > Having got to the Contents page, a simple Edit-Find for the section
title -
> > if no lower than 3 levels perhaps - will locate the wanted information.
If
> > that's not appropriate, the "library" system provides a Search function.
> >
> Amen.
>
> > For those who are keen PDF users, I know Acrobat has a pair of
binoculars
> > but I don't think I'm alone in finding the "library" Search somewhat
faster
> > and easier to use.
> >
> Unless the resource costs of bandwidth, contention, and latency
> are deemed inconsequential.
>
> Vive la Bookie!  A bas PDF.  Please, IBM, don't switch.
>
> -- gil
> -- 
> StorageTek
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>
>
> -- 
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