Ed,

That's a straw man! How many decades has it been since anyone made a box
with Dual Copy?

We are talking about instant split capabilities of "In system replication" -
Shadowimage, Flashcopy, Timefinder and Snapshot.

We are not talking about alien laser beams - we are talking Disaster
Tolerant Storage (that's a RAID Advisory Board specification).

Are we serious?

For more than ten years we have been buying storage that takes our mainframe
data and cuts it up onto millions, billions and trillions of FBA blocks,
which are then striped, chunked and copied all over significantly less disk
drives than MVS thinks it has. 

And how do we access this stew of data? Through maps and pointers. That's
how.

And because a copy is created through maps and pointers we are debating that
this is some sort of additional risk from a disk drive failure? Well get it
right - in the same parity group it has to be two disk drive failures for
RAID-1 and RAID-5 (HDS, IBM and EMC), and three disk drive failures for
RAID-6 (HDS and SUN/STK).

Instead of talking about alien laser beams, do your homework with MTBF and
MTTR (sparing time) to figure out those probabilities.

Ron




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> In a message dated 3/12/2006 12:19:13 P.M. Central Standard Time,
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> It would  have to be a very precise alien laser beam.
> 
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> 
> >>
> Murphy is an awfully good shot! Spent many hours recovering disk failures
> in
> dual copy/PPRC where the primary failed during the  process.
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