To all contributors;

Thanks.

I'll now be able to suggest that removing the SYST attribute from the PPT
has no risks other than exposing the address space in which the program is
running to timing - which risk can, of course be avoided with TIME=1440 (or
NOLIMIT).

The particular environment in which I wanted to make this suggestion is in
support of dynamic VIPAs using the ARM function. When I was researching
dynamic VIPAs I discovered that the ARM function complemented them very
well. For use with programs not yet, as I believe those who know the jargon
say, "ARMed" I put together a pair of programs wrapped round the ARM macros.
However, in order to use them, I needed multiple job steps in the started
task procedure and SYST might/did get in the way of that. It turned out I
was to some extent wasting my time - although you understand a topic better
for having to sculpt a program in order to support it - since there is, and
was, a program with all the necessary options available from IBM called
"ARMWRAP". The trouble was that ARMWRAP appeared to be some sort of
unofficial offering[1] and it missed being found in usual documentation.

[1] Of 20 "hits" on a www.ibm.com Search, 19 are redbooks and 1 a
presentation on IMS (where "IMS Connect" not being "ARMed" is excused by the
availability of ARMWRAP). The first "hit" is for a redpaper "z/OS Automatic
Restart Manager" from February 2002 which appears to have been written in
order to introduce ARMWRAP and provides instructions for obtaining an
ARMWRAP.zip package. Incidentally, the redpaper doesn't say anything about
SYST which is most remiss of the redpaper authors.

Chris Mason

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Mulder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, 02 March, 2006 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: SYST


> IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> wrote on 03/02/2006
> 09:53:34 AM:
>
> > In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 03/01/2006
> >    at 08:25 PM, Chris Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> >
> > >I wonder if there is some aspect of the "system task" other that
> > >being free of time constraints and requiring to be initiated by a
> > >START command which at least prefers a single step.
> >
> > Long ago, in a release far away, the attributes in the PPT were only
> > honored for single-step jobs. Back then there was no SMF timing for
> > system tasks. I suspect that despite the name SYST has nothing to do
> > with whether a started task is a system task, and only controls
> > timing.
>
>   I would agree, as I am unaware of any concept of a "system task"
> in MVS, other than in the documentation for the PPT.  Possibly that
> the terminolgy originated in an ancestor of MVS.
>
> Jim Mulder   z/OS System Test   IBM Corp.  Poughkeepsie,  NY

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