On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 09:12:55 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) <shmuel+ibm-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>...
>>I think we're just going to disagree on this one.  It sounds to me
>>that you expect infalable SMP users.
>
>Then you're not reading what I wrote. Mistakes happen, but ignoring
>advice is not an excuse for making mistakes. When you write off the
>advice that you were given then it is presumptuous to demand that
>someone bail you out.
>...

I think we are arguing past each other here.  And I hereby continue the
process.

The original posting asked whether it was appropriate to let non-system
programmers use SMP.  I contended that the same question applies to system
programmers that are familiar with SMP, and further contend that this
situation may be thrust apon us (whichever group is "us") by managerial
dictate.  And I finally contend that some advice given by the SMP experts
will ignored, forgotten, and/or misunderstood by the SMP neophyte; SMP
is just too complicated for this not to happen.

The expert may be completely justified in saying "You created te mess;
you fix it", but who benefits from that?  Give some help and maybe the
neophyte will learn.

Pat O'Keefe

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