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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL
> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:00 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: FLEX-ES
> 
> 
> >I would advise anyone very strongly against the partnership approach.
> It falls into the paper recovery trap that many shops including one I
> worked at allowed to occur in the past.
> 
> I could not agree more.
> I also find that the COMDISCO approach doesn't work either.

I sort of agree with you. The problem is cost for us small-timers. We
cannot afford to have a duplicate, replicated, remote datacenter. Trying
to do that would cause us to likely "go under" right now instead of in
the case of a disaster. My other problem with any D.R. scenario is
personnel. We are trying to make our z/OS recovery "cook book". And we
are getting there. The Sungard people do 99% of the initial recovery
(getting z/OS running). Unfortunately, application recovery is still
dependant on "local" knowledge. So if a major disaster hits our area
(not just our computer room), then the lack of trained personnel may
well cause the business to fail. And I'm not just talking I.T. people.
What about end-users? You can't just take somebody "off the street" and
have them be able to "take over". So, our disaster recover, is more for
a data center disaster and not a 911 type disaster where we are all
dead. Of course, if I'm dead, I won't really care about the company too
much, will I?


> 
> I have one recovery site, and more than one customer.
> What happens if more than one customer gets hit by a disaster 
> (9-11? Katrina? Other?)?
> Who gets the site?
> First?

>From what I understand it is "first declared, first come".

> Largest?
> Biggest payer?
> More than one?
> None? You're too close to the storm centre!
> 
> The only thing that works is true replication under YOUR control.
> Everything else is 'paper recovery' (I like that term, Sam!).
> 
> "It's too expensive"!
> So is going out of business!

But if the cost of a "proper" scenario drives you to bankruptcy due to
cost, what's the diff?

> 
> D/R is an insurance policy.
> Sites, testing, back-up, recovery, procedures?
> They're the premium payments.

And if the premium payment for insurance is greater than the replacement
cost? Not a good decision then. Theoretically, an Insurance Company
(like mine) cannot really go out of business all at one. The various
state agencies will step in. So, although we may lose our jobs, our
customers should be safe. Theoretically.

> 
> As with all, you get what you paid for.

No - you pay for what you get. There are many times when you don't get
even if you pay.

> 
> -
> -teD
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John McKown
Senior Systems Programmer
UICI Insurance Center
Information Technology

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