Bob,

Never heard the "lost source" story. I was under contract to IBM TJ Watson in early 90's doing LEVEL II & III thingies for VM & MVS TCPIP. The MVS TCPIP was crafted by marrying the VM TCPIP to Dave Doner's and Dean Hiller's marvel "the platform" which provided much of VM functionality under MVS.

My recollection was that it performed quite well. In mid 90's I did some tweaking of the FTP client & Server (VS/Pascal, PL/X and assembler) to catch up to and pass InterLink's FTP. I later made similar improvements to IBM's newer FTP Server (written in C, PL/X and assembler).

There was an interim TCPIP stack (HPNS or high performance network something-or-other) which didn't quite live up to performance and stability expectations. It was soon replaced by a radically redesigned stack (after I finished up part-time telecommute around '97 or '98. Have no idea as to current z/OS stack and applications.

It was my understanding the original VM TCPIP was largely based on WISCNET's (Univ of Wisconsin) Pascal code (Vax?).

  - Jim Keohane

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>I've heard the "taken from VM's TCP/IP stack" story from several
different >sources, too.

IIRC, the stack was ported and subsequently supported by someone at the
T.J. Watson Lab. At SHARE there were a few people, primarily from the
government and universities, who used it. We used to laugh at their
problems - this is probably 12 or more years ago. Then there was a
sudden push by IBM to have customers upgrade to the newest release. It
turns out they lost the source for the older release and couldn't
support it. That may have pushed IBM to move TCP/IP it to a mainstream
development lab.

Bob Shannon

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