This sales pitch is getting annoying.  Additional comments below.

On Tue, 16 May 2006 00:00:11 +0000, Dave Salt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>>From: Charles Mills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>The real, total cost includes:
>>
>>- Management time to evaluate, negotiate, and purchase
>
>Evaluation is usually left to be done by the people in the trenches.

Not anywhere I ever worked.
>
>>- Sysprog time to install, secure, configure, etc.
>
>Anyone can install the ISPF/PDF interface upgrade,

That depends.  Does he have a panel library that he can update?

>It doesn't take a sysprog to install it. In any case, it takes
>less than an hour to install.

Not likely, but I'll grant that you might have an easy to install
interface.  Maybe I'm a little slow, but 
>
>>- Training time. Takes no training? Really? Not even a memo to announce 
its
>>availability?
>
>No training, really. No need to announce availability; just stick an option
>on the ISPF menu.

So I install your product and I'm instantly using it like a pro?
Does that mean that I won't need to bother using your help either?

>But if you want to send a memo to announce it, I guess you
>should add about 10 minutes to the overall cost.

Hmmm...  I've already spent over ten minutes on your product and I don't 
know enough to write the memo.
>
>>- Help desk time (particularly if you scrimped on the training - some
>>people
>>can screw up anything)
>
>Help desk people absolutely love it. The phone rings, and the the help desk
>answers:
>HD:  "Hello, this is the help desk."
>Caller: "Hi, I've run out of space in my data set. What do I do?"
>HD: "Select the data set using function 'I' (Information), then overtype 
any
>attributes you want to change".
>Caller: "Great; thanks!"

I have a PDS that's compressed and full with 16 extents and
I can fix it by overtyping something on an information panel?
Not likely without some authorized code unless you're going to
allocate a new data set and copy, and that's of limited value.

>>- Cost of future maintenance
>
>$5,000 annually. No additional fees when upgrading to bigger/faster
>mainframes.
>
>>- Management time to negotiate future upgrades, etc.
>
>See above.

So you say.  I looked for Ts & Cs on the web site but couldn't find them.

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