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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 8:38 AM
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> Subject: Re: Character set conversoin headaches
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> The obvious reason is that NL is new line; that's what it has been
> there for since the advent of the S/360. What is bizarre was the Unix
> decision to use LF as an NL sequence instead of the traditional CRLF.

Question: You state that CRLF is "traditional". I was under the
impression that CRLF originated with CP/M-80 from Digital Research. The
LF is from UNIX. I think that the original UNIX predates CP/M-80. Yes, I
had a CP/M-80 system many years ago.

>From what I understand, CP/M-80 used CRLF because the printers that that
were driven from the microprocessor based systems of the time did not
implement a "new line" character at all. So, to simplify things, text
files were delimited with CRLF on disk so that the "pip" (Peripherial
Interchange Program ) program could be used to print a text file simply
by "copying" it to "lpt:" (IIRC that was the "name" of the printer).

I hadn't noticed that there is not a NL in ASCII. Good catch!

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