If IBM really wanted to get new programmers interested in z/OS they would make it Open Source. Most of the really good system programmers that I know learned by resolving MVS problems by reading the source on microfiche. The Open Source community is filled with new folks who love to rip the source code apart and improve it. Many of the improvements in
MVS-z/OS have come from the system mods that the early system programmers wrote. Jon L. Veilleux [EMAIL PROTECTED] (860) 636-2683 -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Shein Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 7:14 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: curiosity >The operation of separating the sheep from the goats, while possible, >is not easy; and the possession or non-possession of some credential is >unlikely to be very helpful in distinguishing them. Wow. I could not agree more strongly (probably because I have been saying the same thing for more years than I can easily reckon). Academic work has value and theory is important. But the CREDENTIAL tells me nothing useful; only that dad (or somebody) had enough money to let somebody put in the time and get the piece of paper. In more than 30 years' experience, degrees DO NOT CORRELATE with ability to do useful work, either positively or negatively. They are not evidence either way. David ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ----------------------------------------- This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you think you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this e-mail immediately. Thank you. Aetna ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

