In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 07/12/2006
at 10:10 AM, Darren Evans-Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>This is getting ridiculous.
Not just ridiculous, but abusive.
>I received the following mail rejection notice:
Assuming[1] that you received a DSN (bounce) from their mail server
rather than a 5xx error response, their mail server is configured to
send UBE, e.g., spam. They have no way of knowing whether the reverse
path is forged. I report such abusive DSN's to the upstream providers.
>Ok, the word "free" was used in the subject and this site rejected
>it?!
Nothing wrong[2] with rejecting it, if done properly, although their
user might not appreciate being automatically unsubscribed. What is
wrong is sending a separate DSN instead of rejecting the message
during the SMTP session.
BTW, the same applies to out-of-office and other autoresponders; it is
abusive for them to autorespond to list traffic.
>I have a subscriber from Aetna that everytime they post, I get a
>flurry of rejections from various sites because they think there is
>a mail loop.
Same thing; it is wrong only because they send a separate DSN instead
of rejecting during the session. It would, however, still be massively
stupid even if they did it properly.
>A post from aetna.com goes through about 6 mailers before reaching
>outside their internal network
Nor is that a record.
>It's either use a different address or get your mail
>administrators to lighten up.
Either way the recipients should get their mail administrators to fix
their broken configurations before they wind up being blocked.
[1] A safe assumption, given that listserv would not have sent a
message to you under those circumstances.
[2] As opposed to stupid, which is their right.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
ISO position; see <http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html>
We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress.
(S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003)
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