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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin
> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 2:54 PM
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> Subject: Re: CVS for MVS
> 
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> In a recent note, McKown, John said:
> 

<snip>

> Good points.  I agree (and I stated) the support is partial.
> I hope it's on IBM's agenda to provide ISPF LMxxxx, BPAM
> write, and DESERV support for HFS directories.

That would be very nice. However, around here, we are not likely to ever
use HFS/ZFS instead of PDS or PDSE files for a number of reasons. Some
are good, others are bad.

1) "Nobody recognized me, I didn't look the same." That is, people
around here tend to not be too interested in "new" things. They are too
busy trying to bail the boat to worry about painting it a new color.
Very few here have any notion of UNIX concepts. Even fewer care. Perhaps
a bit short sighted, but what can I do? I try, but nobody wants to
listen.

2) Our application backup methodology is based on a product called VFI.
VFI does not currently support HFS/ZFS resident files, only "legacy"
files (PDS, sequential - disk and tape resident, and VSAM). VFI finds
changed/created files by processing SMF records. HFS file activity does
not cut SMF type 14/15 records when a file is closed. As best as I can
tell, there is no way to track HFS file activity via SMF records.

3) Speaking of the above, we often use MXG to answer the question: "Who
is using a particular file?" We do this to determine if a file can be
eliminated.

4) DFSMShsm does not support UNIX resident files. I think that some
Tivoli product does, but that is more money for "no better
functionality".

5) Cannot use a UNIX subdirectory in a STEPLIB/JOBLIB. This really
destroys any desire on my part to put any "legacy" programs in a UNIX
subdirectory.

6) Increased RACF work to assign everybody a unique UNIX UID. This could
likely be automated, using the AUTOUID in the ADDUSER. This assumes that
people would want to replace their personal PDSes with UNIX
subdirectories. A very unlikely scenario, in my opinion. <see #1 above>


Having said all of that, I would really LOVE to try to NFS export, or
use SMB, so that my z/OS UNIX "home" would be accessable from my
workstation. I am aware that people have done this, but I think it would
require some help from the Windows server people. Or at least their
acquiesce to let me try. I feel this is very unlikely. Right now we are
in detente with them. In the past, open warfare. Some of which I will
admit is my fault.

> 
> I'd certainly use "patch" rather than IEBUPDTE.

I very much agree! Especially since I generate them using "diff" and
never "by hand".

> 
> -- gil


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John McKown
Senior Systems Programmer
HealthMarkets
Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage
Administrative Services Group
Information Technology

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