> -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin > Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 2:54 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: CVS for MVS > > > In a recent note, McKown, John said: >
<snip> > Good points. I agree (and I stated) the support is partial. > I hope it's on IBM's agenda to provide ISPF LMxxxx, BPAM > write, and DESERV support for HFS directories. That would be very nice. However, around here, we are not likely to ever use HFS/ZFS instead of PDS or PDSE files for a number of reasons. Some are good, others are bad. 1) "Nobody recognized me, I didn't look the same." That is, people around here tend to not be too interested in "new" things. They are too busy trying to bail the boat to worry about painting it a new color. Very few here have any notion of UNIX concepts. Even fewer care. Perhaps a bit short sighted, but what can I do? I try, but nobody wants to listen. 2) Our application backup methodology is based on a product called VFI. VFI does not currently support HFS/ZFS resident files, only "legacy" files (PDS, sequential - disk and tape resident, and VSAM). VFI finds changed/created files by processing SMF records. HFS file activity does not cut SMF type 14/15 records when a file is closed. As best as I can tell, there is no way to track HFS file activity via SMF records. 3) Speaking of the above, we often use MXG to answer the question: "Who is using a particular file?" We do this to determine if a file can be eliminated. 4) DFSMShsm does not support UNIX resident files. I think that some Tivoli product does, but that is more money for "no better functionality". 5) Cannot use a UNIX subdirectory in a STEPLIB/JOBLIB. This really destroys any desire on my part to put any "legacy" programs in a UNIX subdirectory. 6) Increased RACF work to assign everybody a unique UNIX UID. This could likely be automated, using the AUTOUID in the ADDUSER. This assumes that people would want to replace their personal PDSes with UNIX subdirectories. A very unlikely scenario, in my opinion. <see #1 above> Having said all of that, I would really LOVE to try to NFS export, or use SMB, so that my z/OS UNIX "home" would be accessable from my workstation. I am aware that people have done this, but I think it would require some help from the Windows server people. Or at least their acquiesce to let me try. I feel this is very unlikely. Right now we are in detente with them. In the past, open warfare. Some of which I will admit is my fault. > > I'd certainly use "patch" rather than IEBUPDTE. I very much agree! Especially since I generate them using "diff" and never "by hand". > > -- gil -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its content is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this transmission, or taking any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

