On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 10:03:24 -0400, Thompson, Steve (SCI TW) 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>And then the idea that ISVs don't know SMP/E is a bit out there -- well
>I'd hope that ISVs know SMP/E. 

I'd hope so too, but some vendors consistently do it wrong.
Some examples:
Providing PTFs without proper PREs
Providing PTFs that don't SUP when they should
Routinely asking a customer to use BYPASS ID
PTF A has a PRE on FMID B, but FMID B has a SUP on PTF A
Failure to provide UCLIN to create DDDEFs

I'm sure others will chime in with their pet peeve of the day.

>But the reason for autocurst was to allow
>the customer to immediately install AutoOPERATOR and then install the
>SMP/E stuff later (basically the system came "pre-installed" you loaded
>the SMP/E files/system later so you could put on maint).

So I get a product that may match what SMP/E has.  No, thanks.  A properly 
built SMP/E install doesn't take much longer than just unloading data sets 
and then I *know* that they are in sync.  The total amount of work is 
typically less to set up the SMP/E environment properly and then install.

>
>So there are lots of things that vendors have to take into
>consideration, and the biggest one today are the Sr. Systems Programmers
>who don't know what a USERMOD is or a JES exit.
>
Now there's a statement that I think is "a bit out there."

Tom Marchant

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