Michael

Unfortunately, the first type of OSA with which I have worked is the OSA-2.
It appears from what Shane tells us that the Amdahl OSA is, in effect, an
OSA-1.

Indeed it is possible to have multiple IP address entries specified for an
OSA feature port in order that the destination IP address can be recognised
in an arriving IP packet. Then the packet is passed to the IP instance in
the LPAR identified to be associated with that destination IP address. Also,
although not necessarily, those destination IP addresses can be VIPAs.

Additionally there is a parameter which permits unrecognised, that is not
specifically identified, IP addresses to be passed to a particular IP
instance. The parameter is a little complicated in that it can take the
values "primary", "secondary" or "none". I just checked section 6.4.3.2, "A
Basic Passthru OAT Entry" in the "z900 Planning for the Open Systems
Adapter-2 (OSA-2) Feature" manual,
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/IOA2GP00, and the
parameter actually corresponds to the specification PRIROUTER, SECROUTER and
NONROUTER in the MPCIPA (QDIO) DEVICE statement.

It's surely normal, default, behaviour, that, if an adapter receives an IP
packet it passes it to the IP instance which "opened" the adapter. If the
destination IP address is one of those in the logical "home" list the packet
will be passed to the logic, the application program, associated with the
destination port (possibly via the TCP layer). If the destination IP address
is *not* one of those in the logical "home" list, the "IP forwarding" option
is checked. If the "IP forwarding" option has been enabled, the packet will
be passed to the routing table logic. If the "IP forwarding" option has
*not* been enabled, the packet will be passed to the "bit bucket" - just as
it is when there is no appropriate port "open" or when the routing table
logic can't handle the destination IP address.

In other words, it's business as usual for an adapter *not* to concern
itself with whether or not the IP packet has a recognisable destination IP
address. It's only when adapters are shared between IP instances that
defining IP addresses in adapter logic comes into play. If the Amdahl OSA
feature allows this sort of sharing *surely* it doesn't throw away the
possibility to pass unrecognised destination IP addresses to one of the
sharing IP instances. In other words, using the MPCIPA parameter names,
surely the default is PRIROUTER and not NONROUTER.

Another "in other words": your sentence "This means both the real IP Address
and the VIPA need to be defined to the OSA to get it to route correctly." is
surely not true.

I'm actually rather puzzled by your concept of a VIPA since the whole idea
of a VIPA is to have one (or more, and, typically, if more, "floating",
dynamic) IP address(es) which is (or are) *not* associated with any
particular adapter.

So, in terms of what you should do, I suggest the following:

1. Install your Amdahl OSA feature
2. Define the port/one of the ports of the OSA to Communications Server (CS)
IP as an LCS adapter
3. Define your static VIPA in CS IP
4. In the router on the same LAN as the OSA port define a static route where
the destination is the VIPA (which should not be using the same IP subnet)
and the "next hop" is the IP address of the OSA port - and so on for other
routers

Of course, you could be using dynamic routing in which case you will not
need step 4 but you will need to study how OMPROUTE handles VIPAs. Post
again if you need help with this topic.

Incidentally, I just checked my previous post and, although I was very
unsure at the time, I see I was right that your problem was in the area of
the "device router status" parameter.

Finally, is the reason you need a VIPA because you want to implement
Enterprise Extender? This might explain why you haven't seen the need to
examine what a VIPA really is.

Chris Mason

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Buckley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, 21 September, 2006 12:35 AM
Subject: Re: Amdahl OSA cards and VIPA


> THe Amdahl OSA is not capable of QDIO, it is in fact defined as an LCS
> device. This means both the real IP Address and the VIPA need to be difned
> to the OSA to get it to route correctly. On an IBM OSA this is done by
> updating the OSA configuration (OAT) with both addresses. For the Amdahl
> card this does not appear to be possible. One possibility is to define 2
> devices to each LPAR with different IP Addresses on each. I do not beleive
> this will work though, as the device for the VIPA seems to require a type
> of VIRTUAL. OSA/SF will not work on Amdahl OSAs, so no help there,
> unfortunately. I do have a manual provided by Amdahl for OSAs, but it does
> not mention how this should be done at all. I would be happy with either a
> response that 'do this and this and this', or 'it can't be done'

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