Tom,

Growth on other platforms? Suffice it to say, the mainframe is the model
citizen on this discussion. IBM's print ads have made fun of servers
taking over the datacenter and they suggest their blade centers. In my
case, THE BLADE racks have taken over. The power company must love us!
<no grin here>

You did not mention TCO on other platforms. You mentioned migration to
them. I took the liberty of pointing out the fallacy that most companies
fall into when they do that...that their TCO will be lower. That is a
bunch of bull.

As for network costs, I am not qualified to really comment. But being a
bank with lots of branches, I presume those costs would be there
regardless.   

Bob Richards 



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On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 09:05:33 -0400, Richards.Bob
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>Tom,
>
>Not even close to a million dollars a month. Of course, your mileage
and
>product mix may vary, but it is less than half of that. Across the last
>two machine-type upgrades (z900s to z990s to z9s), a doubling of
>installed MSUs, and version upgrades to all major software, etc., there
>has been very little increase in my software bill (less than 8%).
>
Thanks, Bob.  I'll guess that "Less than half of that" means more
than a third of a million dollars a month.  Still a big nut.

As I mentioned, I couldn't find current pricing information.
Maybe I ahould have kept my big mouth shut.  Still, I wonder:
Is the growth in the mainframe at your shop on par with the
growth in other platforms?  If not, I would consider that to
be a net loss for the mainframe.  It's not something that I
like to see.

>
>As for TCO on other platforms, gimme a break. I've seen enough not to
be
>fooled again.

I agree.  I don't think I said that other platforms have lower TCO.
I did find it interesting though, when I read the last TCO report
that IBM had posted on their web site a couple of years ago thet
the total cost of the PC network that everyone uses to connect to
the mainframe was not included. 
  
  
  
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