The 'modern' practice is to use dynamically allocated system dump 
datasets. The only need for a SYS1.DUMP* dataset these days is to allow 
for taking an SVC dump in case dynamic allocation is damaged, i.e. the 
system is unable to allocate a dump data set. In that case, having one or 
two fixed data sets can allow you to capture a dump to diagnose DYNALLOC. 
OTOH that's probably an opportunity to try out your standalone dump 
procedures. ;-)

FYI our dynamically allocated dump data sets have block size 24960. That's 
determined by MVS, not us. 

.
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JO.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
323-715-0595 Mobile
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The SYS1.DUMP* data sets here are allocated with a block size of 4160
but rarely used. 

    SYS1.PARMLIB(COMMNDA1) - 01.76                          Columns 00
 ===>                                                          Scroll 
********************************* Top of Data ************************
COM='DD ADD,SMS=(DATA=COMPRESS,MGMT=,STOR=) SMS MANAGE/COMPRESS DUMPS'
COM='DD NAME=DSS.&SYSNAME..&JOBNAME..D&LYYMMDD..T&LHHMMSS..DMP&SEQ' 
COM='DD ALLOC=ACTIVE' 
COM='CD SET,SDUMP,MAXSPACE=8000M' 

There are a lot of advantages to using the dynamic allocation for SVC
dump datasets.  PARTIAL dumps become a rare occurrence, you can use SMS
features like compression and striping to save space and improve dump
performance, you don't require automation for dump archive and cleanup.

        Best Regards, 

                Sam Knutson, GEICO 
                Performance and Availability Management 
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                (office)  301.986.3574 

"Think big, act bold, start simple, grow fast..."

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 3:41 AM
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Subject: SYS1.DUMP* dataset allocation

Anybody any views / information on BLKSIZE of SYS1.DUMP datasets.
Record size of 4160 , no probs. We are getting suggestions of 24960 or
29120 . I can't seem to find the IBM manual that tells me what IBM
suggest.



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