On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:22:24 -0400, Jousma, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>-----Original Message----- >From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >Behalf Of Mark Zelden >Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 10:02 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: ZFS Root impact on cloning SYSRES > > >>It does work, I even tested it to make sure. They key is the HLQ of >SYS1. I said that in my post but I should have explained why. That's >what happens >>when you start rambling. There is special code in DFSMS to allow SYS1 >(and PAGE) to be cataloged in multiple catalogs. > >>OMVS HLQ... that is the recatalog issue. Change to SYS1.OMVS and it >will work. > >Thanks, didn't realize that it was true for SYS1 as well. We also have >FDR and realize I can do a straight copy, but don't want to rely on a >process that requires that product, as DFDSS doesn't support direct >copies of hfs/zfs last I knew. We are migrating away from FDR usage >anyway. Oh.. you mean my HFS disk to disk copy? I forgot that DFSMSdss didn't used to support that. It does now. Since I don't use it often I can't remember when... z/OS 1.3 DFSMS (same version in z/OS 1.4) or maybe it was 1.5. I know it does in z/OS 1.6. But that doesn't apply to zFS anyway since it is VSAM. >The only reason why I rebuild IPL text EVERY time is to not miss any >updated or changes made to IPL text introduced by maintenance(granted, >not very often), but now I never have to think about it. I have seen and heard others say the same thing. But if you miss that ACTION hold, what others are you missing? I have to go through all of them anyway, so I don't consider that an issue. But it only takes a few seconds (plus an operator reply), so no harm. > DFDSS copies >it too. My running sysres's are 50% utilized(saves room for those ever >increasing ZFS dataset sizes). That includes TARGETzone SMPE >environment that that sysres, DSSDUMP copies of ZFS, and the ZFS's >themselves, which incidentally, make up 113,000 tracks out of the >491,000 available by themselves. All that duplication of HFS / ZFS on the sysres for backups does take a lot of space. If you use the recatalog method I plan on using, you won't have to do that. For HFS you can just define non-vsam and use indirect cataloging etc. I have always kept the tgt zones on the sysres (set) also when there has been space. When things get tight... that has always been the first thing to go to get me an extra 100 cyl. or so since the zones aren't required to be on the sysres. But today, 100 cyl doesn't buy much. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group: G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS and OS390 expert at http://searchDataCenter.com/ateExperts/ Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

