In a message dated 3/23/2007 2:58:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

While it  doesn't happen often, VM discussions are allowed.



>>
Back in the olden days, we ran VM and MVS and were having trouble  
communicating. Mostly with Cross domain, printer set-up, PSF options and the  
like. It 
was one of the reasons this list was started. As participants in early  ARPAnet 
and BITnet it was obvious other folks were having similar problems  and 
discussions. As mailer and listserv software got better and more  
sophisticated, 
other groups spun off as enhancements were introduced. Most  notably MVS-OE, 
DOM390 and others. 
 
IBM was very late to the game. We were stuck under Software Mall as  hardware 
for several years. When Almaden pulled the plug it was a long time  before 
they could find anyone to configure a new server to feed the  news groups. When 
IBM dropped HESC guess the VM% shrunk as folks moved to  more friendly priced 
*Nix environment. It's been an arduous journey at times as  different mindsets 
and backgrounds come and go and funding gets moved  around. Think we went 18 
months at one time during three straight years of  proration where we couldn't 
find $58 dollars a month to upgrade.
 
As more developers and vendors participated, it grew into a robust  resource. 
VM, MVS/VSE, OE, USS, VTAM very broad base. When we had the debate  about 
whether to shut down for Y2K you'd be surprised how many countries  Minister's 
of 
information requested that it be kept up. Every continent except  Antarctica 
wrote the director with reasons and whyfors...it was kept up!
 
It's Friday!      



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