I guess over time you end up using all of the mainframe editors.  When I
started off in this business I was 16 and a part-time operator for a
local hospital and that's about the time VSE/ICCF was introduced.  

In college we used MUSIC/SP and when I started at the bank a few years
later ROSCOE and Wylbur were the big, hot editors.  But like everyone
else depending on the environment I've used every editor for either VSE
or "MVS".  

My favorite was at an airline where I was doing consulting work.  The VP
of MIS didn't like XEDIT so we had to use ISPF under CMS.

Gary Garland Gregory, MS
CA 
Senior Software Engineer
Tel: +1-214-473-1863
Fax: +1-214-473-1050
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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Eric N. Bielefeld
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 10:21 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: ISPF not productive

I still think that what you learned first and grew up on determines what

editor you like best.  I worked with VM for about 15 years at P&H Mining

until they retired VM.  I never liked XEDIT as well as ISPF.  I know
that 
some of the best people at P&H liked XEDIT better, but they learned it 
before ISPF.  I know that there are a few things that XEDIT does that
can't 
be done in ISPF, but I can't remember what they are now.

Its funny how things work out when you've been away from ISPF for a
while. 
When I would edit something at Lands End on the mainframe, I would keep 
grabbing the mouse and try to scroll forward using the scroll wheel.  I
wish 
I could do that in ISPF.  I guess you can if you use the GUI, but I've
never 
seen that work.

Eric Bielefeld
Sr. z/OS Systems Programmer
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
414-475-7434

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I take it that you've never used XEDIT. ISPF
> certainly has a fine collection of tools, but the developers could
> make it much better by taking advantage of ideas in the, e.g., VM,
> *ix, worlds.
>
> -- 
>     Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT 

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