> On Mon, 2007-04-09 at 23:52 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
> > >
> > > Not really.  Since the *ix boxes max out at 30% utilization, you
need
> > >
> > This statement has been repeated so often among mainframe
> > partisans that it has come to be accepted without question.
> > Can someone provide a source, attribution, citation, whatever?

 And Shane said

> I've no Unix background, merely Linux, but I'd be hard pressed to
> believe this RoT (if it is such) is valid.
> With respect to Linux, maybe it came from 2.4 kernel days - *lots* of
> servers still appear to  run this for "stability".
> Maybe it came from 2.2.
> 
> With 2.6 I'd be *real* surprised if you can't productively run the CPU
> much harder - although I/O (including swap/page) traffic can be a bit
> problematic at high rates.

This is an old canard. Back in the day you would see pretty bad cpu
(queuing) contention at 70-odd percent in UNIX systems that did lots of
multitasking because there was no moral equivalent of SRM or WLM making
effective choices about who was more deserving. UNIX had and still has a
priority scheme but frankly its pretty lame. If you were comparing
something like an MVS/TSO system with a UNIX box supporting similar
interactive users the MVS/TSO box was always going to get more
(transactional) work through - again, making no judgments about their
relative utility.

However...

If you had an application that was essentially a single process that did
repetitive things, then the OS didn't have a lot of work to do and so
there wasn't much resource contention. You could run something like that
as hard as it would go. And as Shane said, it would be things like
paging or I/O that eventually limited throughput.

It is no accident that the Win and Lin and *IX approach has always been
more oriented to a single application per box. When you shape the world
like that, you are not very likely to run into the sort of contention
issues that SRM and WLM were designed to solve in a single system. This
is a key difference - their universe looks different than ours and we
have to be careful when making comparisons.

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