On Thu, 2007-05-03 at 12:12 -0500, Anthony Saul Babonas wrote:
> I'm curious.  How difficult would it be a a zOS sysprog to become
> proficient in a like type position on a Windows or UNIX based system?

I don't know of a "like type position" in the MS-Windows world, where
programmers aren't typically employed to do sysadmin work.  (When I was
a little more youthful, and a lot more brash, I'd refer to some of the
more shallow sysprogs as "parameter jockeys".  Today they'd be called
"sysadmins".)

> About 10 years ago I took a couple of classes in Novell and deduced
> that anyone with zOS sysprog background could become a guru in 2-3
> days.

Wow, you grossly underestimated the amount of effort it takes to become
proficient.  Back in the day (pre-NDS) I built and managed our company's
Novell network.  In the process I wrote some bindery applications, the C
API to support them, and a handful of NLMs.  At that I only scratched
the surface of NetWare.  If all you want to do is add and remove users,
sure, a couple of days training is all you need.  But if you are
responsible for your corporate infrastructure... well, you should be
intimately familiar with the tools at hand.  A week of training isn't
going to cut it.

(That's not to say you can't run your shop with only sysadmins.  Lots of
people do.  But you should have a VAR on retainer who has some *real*
expertise, and who is available to you at the drop of a hat.)

-- 
David Andrews
A. Duda and Sons, Inc.
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