I would think the 'support' comes down to legal posturing. IBM supports n+2 
these days. That means as long as you stay within that window, they work to 
make sure the three releases play nice together. Go outside that window and 
they can not be sucked into the lawsuit against you when you you break the 
system, horribly. After that, you get to choose how much risk you are willing 
to take. Until you try to run your 'unsupported' configuration and find out if 
it 
works or not, there is uncertainty. If you are not doing a push-pull of your 
processor, and that is a big risk, do some testing. In all the migration 
material 
I read, there are frequent references to 'once you start using a new feature, 
the old system cannot handle it.'  It is hard to imagine that the day you cut 
over you are really implementing new or modified applications using all the new 
bells and whistles of a system you were not running anyway. Your old stuff 
still runs the same old way. So as Brian points out, if you do not do that, you 
can share more than you think. As long as you accept the risk.

Making the leap from 31 bit to 64 bit is not as big a challenge today as it was 
years ago. If you need to do it, all the vendor products out there are ready 
for you. Unless you have some obscure vendor who had their head in a hole. 
Get all the current products and do it. Or bring in someone who has done it.


On Fri, 4 May 2007 23:40:28 -0500, Brian Westerman 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>ah, again with the FUD.
>
>There is no issue with sharing catalogs, or RACF between OS/390 and z/OS at
>any level, you just can't do stupid things.  There are some
>incompatibilities with some products, but mostly it's a matter of two
>inconsistent versions of products that you can handle up front before the
>actual conversion.  I never said it was a nit, but it's not impossible nor
>is it particularly difficult, you just have to know what you're doing.  I've
>done it too many times at too many sites and I have not run into any
>insurmountable issues with being outside of the N-3 "rules".  It's not like
>IBM is going to say, "Wow!, you're trying to convert from OS/390 2.10 to
>Z/OS 1.8, we don't support that!, You'll just have to go away.", because
>they do provide support, they have been from time to time very helpful.  I
>will admit that I have not had to call them very much lately due to issues
>because I've already run into most, if not all, of them and have the
>solutions.
>
>I even had two conversion client contacts in 2006 passed on to me from IBM
>support, and those conversions went fine with no hitches.
>
>Doing the conversion in multiple steps is just make-work that the client
>should not have to pay for and that I don't want to have to go through
>either.  I guess if I was  really bored, I might have a different
>perspective, but there are too many other interesting things to do without
>making extra work for myself or the client.
>
>Brian
>
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