This is a very interesting discussion.

I have nothing to contribute concerning what vendors might supply as directory block allocations - or do I?

My own rules of thumb for trying to be neat with pre/non-SMS partitioned data sets - which I codified in some TSO clists for reorganising my partitioned data sets - were 100% more than currently used for *active* partitioned data sets and 5% more for inactive partitioned data sets - rounded up to the next multiple of 5 - unless less than 5 - or something like that.

It's interesting to map those rules of thumb to what a vendor might select. If he/she is confident that the product is well nigh perfect and will not need to change much, the 5% rule will apply. If he/she is somewhat less confident, perhaps the 100% rule will apply. Which should he/she go for I wonder.

Incidentally, my partitioned data sets were for a collection of test/education systems and so nobody should assume my ROTs should be considered necessarily valid for production systems. I was trying to ensure that all the shared data sets for a variety of products could be accommodated on one shared volume - over a VM base. This required a certain meanness in the allocation of data sets - including directory blocks.

Chris Mason

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I am not hard set on filling the track for filling sake. I do it because it seems orderly. Certainly a vendor should allocate 'stingy' because they are also not
providing the disk space but they should be considerate and use reasonable
numbers. We should not be guessing how many more directory blocks they
need, nor how much larger the secondary should have been.

I'll go back on my earlier post and say 'allocate what you need plus 10%. I
read someone up that to 20%. The actual % is dependent on the vendor and
the product. They need to do analysis and then provide good numbers.

If they already fill 43 directory blocks, then using Tom's method they should have upped to 90, not 45. I could live with that. If they fill 2 directory blocks
then I do not want to see 90, 45 is still okay by me.


On Wed, 16 May 2007 18:49:21 -0400, Richards.Bob
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Tom,

You aren't the only ones, just the vocal ones! <LOL>

Bob Richards

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#4 - Directory blocks should ALWAYS be a multiple of 45.  That way I
won't
get directory out of space the next time you expand your product.


My gripe is that there is NO REASON for a vendor to be stingy with
directory blocks. I hate it when the initial install goes OK, then the
first maintenance tape causes me 5 runs because 4 datasets run out of
directory blocks.

You'd think that they were paying for the disk space.


Neal,

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!  I took so much crap for this one.  Guess you and I
are
the only ones that think running out of directory blocks during
maintenance
because the initial install specified 10 is stupid.

Regards,
Tom Conley

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