On Sat, 19 May 2007 08:42:28 +1000, Shane wrote:

>On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 18:19 -0400, Thompson, Steve wrote:
>
>Corporate LAN runs off to a timesource every so often - all the users
>ever see is a consistent (correct) time value.
>Mainframe (even with ETR) wanders around always "off-time" - unless it
>also synchs to a (different) timesource. Given the questions we see here
>on the list, I wonder if the majority of ETRs aren't synched to an
>atomic source at all, but set locally.
>
Everything "runs off to a timesource every so often".  Even the "atomic
source" is a weighted average of several atomic clocks widely separated
geographically.  I think that's what the "coordinated" in UTC means.
It's dismaying that for mainframes the "timesource" is too often the
operator's wristwatch.

>It's about time IBM allowed the clock correction to be driven by an
>"accepted" source.
> 
I believe that's what the sysplex timer does.  In my experience, it does
it extremely well.  I don't know whether dialup or shortwave to WWV is
counted as an "accepted source".  Alas, the OP states he hasn't a Sysplex
Timer.

>              ...  Maybe the next step will be to just be a (local)
>client like everyone else.
>It's just a server after all ...
>
But what happens to revenues for the Sysplex Timer division?

Another perception is that time from TCP/IP is free.  The source code
is available at no charge.  Most non-mainframe systems are sold with it
preloaded.  I perceive the administrative overhead as less than for a
sysplex timer.  As long as the mainframes remain egregious in not using
TCP/IP as a timesource, there's a selling point for the competition.

-- gil

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