On Jun 15, 2007, at 10:04 AM, Mark H. Young wrote:
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I think the *operative* words here are:  "Corporate Executives"
They just want systems programmers to make *LESS* money, so their
companies can make bigger profits and themselves get bigger bonuses.
Especially in the contracting / consulting business, be it Fed Gov't,
*any* gov't, etc.  They don't want to pay us for our experience and
expertise.  Just pay themselves the *BIG$$$* bucks.

Sad but probably true...

Except for Service Bureaus or Time Shares. (Gee, do they still exist?)

True I have not heard about any in several years... if I were guessing they probably have second lives as DR type companies.


And with ServerPac, what you end up with are non-systems programmers, or folks who work in DP/APPL/OPER/IT/IS (take your pick), who've just been promoted and are still making peanuts$$. Again, bottom line here. Then those
*Maroons* get an error and call someone.  Then the fun starts, ay?!
And thus, you have the *dumbing down* scenario.

Yea I ran into a scenerio with the servpac support was in Germany. I was less than happy with "support" I got (this was 10 years ago maybe its improved since then). I have talked about detail on here before and I won't rehash it again. But I thought to myself my if this call was handled this way with a long time sysprog how would it have been received by a newbie. IBM support is either really good or really bad generally its at least OK. OEM vendors tend to be really bad or sometime excellent (like Innovation) but since INNOVATION is the exception, IMO, they probably shouldn't be in any average since it throws the average out of skew. On another product about 5 years ago (out of Germany I believe as well) the vendor support was really below par. Of course we found out before purchasing their product and stopped the purchase.

Ed

Just my 2-cents worth.

.....mhyI

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